Should not be afraid to drain the farm.

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Re: Should not be afraid to drain the farm.

Post by harmony » Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:50 pm

GL_Storm wrote:
Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:30 pm
D-train wrote:
Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:07 pm
GL_Storm wrote:
Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:58 pm
I just wish our damn beat reporters had some sort of fucking clue what front office is up to.
Yep even when they do ask a provocative question like Stone did about moving JP from SS for a FA, they just let them answer with a canned BS response instead of following up with the obvious, "Don't ya think that kind of puts you at a disadvantage in a highly competitive process to convince players to join your team?????"
It's not just the question and answer, it's the total lack of inside information. There's just nothing from these guys. Not a damn thing.
That's because they're front office professionals.

The best negotiations and strategies often fall apart if made public prematurely. And the problem is not limited to the business of baseball.

Beat reporters face ongoing ethical dilemmas because they're dependent on sources who could cut off information at any moment. And the problem is not limited to the business of baseball.

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Re: Should not be afraid to drain the farm.

Post by D-train » Sat Dec 10, 2022 9:06 pm

harmony wrote:
Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:50 pm
GL_Storm wrote:
Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:30 pm
D-train wrote:
Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:07 pm


Yep even when they do ask a provocative question like Stone did about moving JP from SS for a FA, they just let them answer with a canned BS response instead of following up with the obvious, "Don't ya think that kind of puts you at a disadvantage in a highly competitive process to convince players to join your team?????"
It's not just the question and answer, it's the total lack of inside information. There's just nothing from these guys. Not a damn thing.
That's because they're front office professionals.

The best negotiations and strategies often fall apart if made public prematurely. And the problem is not limited to the business of baseball.

Beat reporters face ongoing ethical dilemmas because they're dependent on sources who could cut off information at any moment. And the problem is not limited to the business of baseball.
Yeah I get why agents leak stuff but what is in it for Club employees to leak inside info. I NEVER understood that.
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Re: Should not be afraid to drain the farm.

Post by D-train » Sat Dec 10, 2022 9:14 pm

Looks like Julio will be our CF regardless of us trading for Reynolds...lol
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Re: Should not be afraid to drain the farm.

Post by Coeurd’Alene J » Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:25 am

D-train wrote:
Sat Dec 10, 2022 9:14 pm
Looks like Julio will be our CF regardless of us trading for Reynolds...lol
I would consider that a horrible outfielder. Are we sure we want this shit playing anywhere

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Re: Should not be afraid to drain the farm.

Post by Sexymarinersfan » Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:34 am

Coeurd’Alene J wrote:
Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:25 am
D-train wrote:
Sat Dec 10, 2022 9:14 pm
Looks like Julio will be our CF regardless of us trading for Reynolds...lol
I would consider that a horrible outfielder. Are we sure we want this shit playing anywhere
We aren't trading for him for his glove. We are trading for his bat. Hell, if Jesse Winker performed up to snuff he'd be our everyday DH.

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Re: Should not be afraid to drain the farm.

Post by harmony » Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:30 am

For outfield defense the Mariners should just trade for Minnesota's Max Kepler, who has an astounding 46 Defensive Runs Saved in just under 5,600 innings in right field:

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/max-k ... d-fielding

Kepler may benefit from the revised shift rules as Steamer projects the nearly 30-year-old Kepler with a 2023 wRC+ of 109:

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/max-k ... osition=OF

Kepler is owed $8.5 million in 2023 with a $10 million team option, or $1 million buyout, for 2024. Baseball Trade Values assigns Kepler a surplus value of $5.8 million (or less than the $6.2 million assigned to Seattle's tradeable No. 30 compensatory draft pick). Kepler's name has come up in trade speculation.

Kepler could join Julio Rodriguez and Jarred Kelenic in the Seattle outfield with Teoscar Hernandez serving as the primary designed hitter. The Mariners could add Wil Myers as the first base/outfield backup as insurance against another Kelenic underperformance. If all five are producing as the trade deadline approaches an expiring contract could be traded to address a different need.
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Re: Should not be afraid to drain the farm.

Post by Seattle or Bust » Sun Dec 11, 2022 3:30 am

harmony wrote:
Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:30 am
For outfield defense the Mariners should just trade for Minnesota's Max Kepler, who has an astounding 46 Defensive Runs Saved in just under 5,600 innings in right field:

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/max-k ... d-fielding

Kepler may benefit from the revised shift rules as Steamer projects the nearly 30-year-old Kepler with a 2023 wRC+ of 109:

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/max-k ... osition=OF

Kepler is owed $8.5 million in 2023 with a $10 million team option, or $1 million buyout, for 2024. Baseball Trade Values assigns Kepler a surplus value of $5.8 million (or less than the $6.2 million assigned to Seattle's tradeable No. 30 compensatory draft pick). Kepler's names has come up in trade speculation.

Kepler could join Julio Rodriguez and Jarred Kelenic in the Seattle outfield with Teoscar Hernandez serving as the primary designed hitter. The Mariners could add Wil Myers as the first base/outfield backup as insurance against another Kelenic underperformance. If all five are producing as the trade deadline approaches an expiring contract could be traded to address a different need.
Ya. Trade for a corner OF who dropped a .666 OPS last year.

The OF version of Adam Frazier.

Brilliant.

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Re: Should not be afraid to drain the farm.

Post by bpj » Sun Dec 11, 2022 3:33 am

Here's a few snapshots of the guys who are being talked about.

FULL SEASON:
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Versus LHP:
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Versus RHP:
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Re: Should not be afraid to drain the farm.

Post by Juliooooo » Sun Dec 11, 2022 3:38 am

Don't trade G2 though. He's Julio Lite. He's my #1 do not trade guy.
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Re: Should not be afraid to drain the farm.

Post by Captain 97 » Sun Dec 11, 2022 3:38 am

I haven't really heard JD Martinez named mentioned mich. I'd wouldnt mind seeing him here. He could be the primary DH and get some run at Corner Outfield when they want to rotate guys through.

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