2025 Prospects Thread

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Re: 2025 Prospects Thread

Post by D-train » Thu May 01, 2025 10:45 pm

Seattle or Bust wrote:
Thu May 01, 2025 10:06 pm
I don't get what is special about Cole Young at all.

Why would you draft a guy w. the 21st pick overall whose comp is Adam Frazier? Much less get excited about him.

Not hitting in AAA is one thing, hitting .271 in the minors when your calling card a "60" hit tool is the most concerning part for me. First round pick with supposedly elite contact skills hitting .271 while Kelenic hit .297? While Julio hit .331? While Cal hit .275?

Oof.

Look at this moron... updated ESPN prospect rankings:

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Laz at 9... Young at 3. Makes total sense.
Laz at 9 is absurd. .988 OPS. Young, Emerson and Ford have OPS from .577 to .700. Must be another one of those Laz big boy so all he can do is hit lazy clowns.
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Re: 2025 Prospects Thread

Post by GL_Storm » Thu May 01, 2025 10:46 pm

Captain 97 wrote:
Thu May 01, 2025 10:12 pm
bpj wrote:
Thu May 01, 2025 7:33 pm
I have a hard time getting excited about any prospect when power isn't an obvious part of their game.

What is there to hope for? A Dansby Swanson type?

I don't follow our minor leagues much because it never seems to matter much in the MLB lineup. Cal Raleigh and Kyle Seager are obvious exceptions and they deserve credit for those two. Julio, obviously.

Although they still managed to knock Seager down a rung on the value ladder by moving him 3B instead of 2B because Ackley was the heir apparent at 2B. (I know the positional adjustment of the two positions is ~equal now, it wasn't always that way)

And they signed Julio to a superstar contract and paid him way more now than he'd be earning, which ate into the 2025+ payrolls, shooting themselves in the foot. Robbing Paul to pay Peter.

This team just finds a way to be frustrating at every turn.
Sometimes Power is the last thing to come. Edgar was in AAA for 4 years and hit 21 Home runs in in 950 AB's. Id much rather have a prospect who is hitting line drives all over the place in the minors over a guy who has some pop but struggles to make regular contact.
But the issue right now is that he isn't hitting at all. I'm open to the idea that it's still early and maybe he's working on something, but right now the numbers don't look great.

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Re: 2025 Prospects Thread

Post by D-train » Thu May 01, 2025 10:52 pm

Captain 97 wrote:
Thu May 01, 2025 10:12 pm
bpj wrote:
Thu May 01, 2025 7:33 pm
I have a hard time getting excited about any prospect when power isn't an obvious part of their game.

What is there to hope for? A Dansby Swanson type?

I don't follow our minor leagues much because it never seems to matter much in the MLB lineup. Cal Raleigh and Kyle Seager are obvious exceptions and they deserve credit for those two. Julio, obviously.

Although they still managed to knock Seager down a rung on the value ladder by moving him 3B instead of 2B because Ackley was the heir apparent at 2B. (I know the positional adjustment of the two positions is ~equal now, it wasn't always that way)

And they signed Julio to a superstar contract and paid him way more now than he'd be earning, which ate into the 2025+ payrolls, shooting themselves in the foot. Robbing Paul to pay Peter.

This team just finds a way to be frustrating at every turn.
Sometimes Power is the last thing to come. Edgar was in AAA for 4 years and hit 21 Home runs in in 950 AB's. Id much rather have a prospect who is hitting line drives all over the place in the minors over a guy who has some pop but struggles to make regular contact.
That is still more that double Colt's HR rate. Only 6 in over 600 PAs and guessing he never had a 156 PA drought and I know he was never our #1 prospect. You don't magically go from Zero power to enough power to be an AS 3B.
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Re: 2025 Prospects Thread

Post by GL_Storm » Thu May 01, 2025 10:55 pm

Seattle or Bust wrote:
Thu May 01, 2025 10:06 pm
I don't get what is special about Cole Young at all.

Why would you draft a guy w. the 21st pick overall whose comp is Adam Frazier? Much less get excited about him.
I didn't like the pick but it was reasonable for #21. I don't think it was a great draft year though.

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Re: 2025 Prospects Thread

Post by D-train » Thu May 01, 2025 11:00 pm

GL_Storm wrote:
Thu May 01, 2025 10:46 pm
Captain 97 wrote:
Thu May 01, 2025 10:12 pm
bpj wrote:
Thu May 01, 2025 7:33 pm
I have a hard time getting excited about any prospect when power isn't an obvious part of their game.

What is there to hope for? A Dansby Swanson type?

I don't follow our minor leagues much because it never seems to matter much in the MLB lineup. Cal Raleigh and Kyle Seager are obvious exceptions and they deserve credit for those two. Julio, obviously.

Although they still managed to knock Seager down a rung on the value ladder by moving him 3B instead of 2B because Ackley was the heir apparent at 2B. (I know the positional adjustment of the two positions is ~equal now, it wasn't always that way)

And they signed Julio to a superstar contract and paid him way more now than he'd be earning, which ate into the 2025+ payrolls, shooting themselves in the foot. Robbing Paul to pay Peter.

This team just finds a way to be frustrating at every turn.
Sometimes Power is the last thing to come. Edgar was in AAA for 4 years and hit 21 Home runs in in 950 AB's. Id much rather have a prospect who is hitting line drives all over the place in the minors over a guy who has some pop but struggles to make regular contact.
But the issue right now is that he isn't hitting at all. I'm open to the idea that it's still early and maybe he's working on something, but right now the numbers don't look great.
Exactly
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Re: 2025 Prospects Thread

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Thu May 01, 2025 11:48 pm

Sounds like you guys might consider trading Mr. Young for Kelenic. Why not, we need another outfielder until Robles gets healthy and his D has always been solid.

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Re: 2025 Prospects Thread

Post by D-train » Fri May 02, 2025 12:33 am

Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Thu May 01, 2025 11:48 pm
Sounds like you guys might consider trading Mr. Young for Kelenic. Why not, we need another outfielder until Robles gets healthy and his D has always been solid.
Fuck no.
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