
M's would have still sucked.
Trout went 25th in the first round, 24 teams took a pass on him. Baseball is just that random and the draft is almost entirely a crapshoot. Mike Piazza was a 62nd round pick.acctingman wrote: ↑Thu Jul 24, 2025 8:32 pmI saw the M's could have drafted Mike Trout instead of Ackley![]()
M's would have still sucked.
If I remember correctly they had a reliever named Fields that was their first round pick the previous year. He went almost a full year without signing and the signed him at the last minute. If they wouldn't have signed him they would have had a supplemental pick in the Trout draft that would have been a couple of picks before where the Angels drafted Trout. Who knows if they would have picked him or not but they would have had the opportunity. They weren't the only ones who passed on trout. There are about a dozen players selected before him who had a cup of coffee at best in the Big Leagues.acctingman wrote: ↑Thu Jul 24, 2025 8:32 pmI saw the M's could have drafted Mike Trout instead of Ackley![]()
M's would have still sucked.
I think Jack Z gets an unfair bad rap. They made him do a rebuild and decreased his payroll every year for his his first several years. Then they finally let him spend but got impatient and sent him packing before he had a chance to finish the rebuild. The team Jack Z assembled would have made the playoffs in 2016 if Dipoto hadn't traded off Trumbo and replaced him with Adam Lind.
Familiar with this, that was the true Josh Fields fuck upCaptain 97 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 24, 2025 11:20 pmIf I remember correctly they had a reliever named Fields that was their first round pick the previous year. He went almost a full year without signing and the signed him at the last minute. If they wouldn't have signed him they would have had a supplemental pick in the Trout draft that would have been a couple of picks before where the Angels drafted Trout. Who knows if they would have picked him or not but they would have had the opportunity. They weren't the only ones who passed on trout. There are about a dozen players selected before him who had a cup of coffee at best in the Big Leagues.acctingman wrote: ↑Thu Jul 24, 2025 8:32 pmI saw the M's could have drafted Mike Trout instead of Ackley![]()
M's would have still sucked.
LOS ANGELES - The Los Angeles Dodgers today acquired right-handed reliever Josh Fields from the Astros in exchange for minor league first baseman Yordan Alvarez. Fields, 30, went 1-0 with one save and a 1.65 ERA in 23 relief appearances for the Astros' Triple-A Fresno this season, limiting opponents to a .192 batting average with a 0.65 WHIP. He also made 15 appearances for the Astros this year, posting a 6.89 ERA (12 ER/15.2 IP), and went 9-10 with nine saves and a 4.53 ERA in 164 big-league games with Houston in four seasons from 2013-16, averaging better than a strikeout per inning in the Majors with 197 Ks in 159.0 innings. He was originally selected by the Mariners in the first round (20th overall) of the 2008 First-Year Player Draft out of the University of Georgia.
This is exactly correct. And our Top Scout was actually standing in Trout's living room ready to draft him when Zdeurencick got the Josh Fields signing over the finish line at the very last minute.Captain 97 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 24, 2025 11:20 pmIf I remember correctly they had a reliever named Fields that was their first round pick the previous year. He went almost a full year without signing and the signed him at the last minute. If they wouldn't have signed him they would have had a supplemental pick in the Trout draft that would have been a couple of picks before where the Angels drafted Trout. Who knows if they would have picked him or not but they would have had the opportunity. They weren't the only ones who passed on trout. There are about a dozen players selected before him who had a cup of coffee at best in the Big Leagues.acctingman wrote: ↑Thu Jul 24, 2025 8:32 pmI saw the M's could have drafted Mike Trout instead of Ackley![]()
M's would have still sucked.
believe the expectations were built on a weak draft. He didn't hit for power, he was coming off of tj surgery, he didn't have a position. In a decently stocked draft he isn't making the top 10 and his career trajectory is not really unusual.DavidGee24 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 24, 2025 6:51 pmI think that you have to take expectations into account. Ackley was regarded as the top college hitter with the stats to back it up in a time where you could watch all of his ABs on TV and break them down whereas Chambers was a high-school player in the '70s where they'd have one scout watch a few of his games and write their player ratings down on paper and then mail them to the Mariner front office.Hy Feiber wrote: ↑Thu Jul 24, 2025 5:20 pmI agree, he should be at the bottom of that list.Donn Beach wrote: ↑Thu Jul 24, 2025 4:55 pmAckley their biggest bust? I don't buy that, look around the league, its not that uncommon for a highly selected player to have a middling career. He put up 8 war, what did Chambers put up?