A plan for the 3x trade favorites 3.0

[Donn Beach]

Apparently part of Naylor's re-signing with the M's was discussing the M's top prospects and their plan for who/when they're going to implement them.

I doubt the M's FO would make Naylor privy to trade info... but I'm not sure how you don't at least hint at trade plans if the discussion actually took place.

Yeah, it's funny really. I mean it's fun to come up with ideas for them but it seems to me if you actually listen to what they say they lay out exactly what they intend to do this off season. I don't think I've ever known it to be so clear. Sign naylor, sign polanco, play Williamson, young and colt. Oh and find another reliever. Did I miss anything?

Listen to what the say??????????????? fuck you BRUCE fuck the fuck out of you you mother fucker. Die in hell bitch. Everyone thought you were a nerdy bitch but I stood up for you. Fuck off.

Huh, that's not very nice

[Donn Beach]

Apparently part of Naylor's re-signing with the M's was discussing the M's top prospects and their plan for who/when they're going to implement them.

I doubt the M's FO would make Naylor privy to trade info... but I'm not sure how you don't at least hint at trade plans if the discussion actually took place.

Yeah, it's funny really. I mean it's fun to come up with ideas for them but it seems to me if you actually listen to what they say they lay out exactly what they intend to do this off season. I don't think I've ever known it to be so clear. Sign naylor, sign polanco, play Williamson, young and colt. Oh and find another reliever. Did I miss anything?

They said they want to bring Geno back and they've checked in with STL on Donovan. I wouldn't be so sure.

Yeah, it's true about Geno, they brought that up. It wasn't clear to me if it was in terms of one or the other with polanco. Terms of checking in, sure, dipoto will be looking for opportunities. But it seems to me, I really can't remember them or anyone else really being so clear about what the intended plan is. We get to speculate about this trade or that trade and it might still happen but at the same time, they seem to have made it pretty clear what they have in mind, that's just kinda funny to me. It's usually vague generalities

[Pharmabro]

Nah. There's barely any sports media in Seattle and not that many fans that closely follow these things like we do here. People do care a lot about Seahawks and Huskies, but nobody gets all that worked up about the Mariners. A trade for Donovan could happen, but it's more something that we're dreaming up. And personally I don't really care. He seems like a very mid player to me.

I mean, he's a 3-4 win player when healthy.

We are Mariner fans. We don't expect to be shopping in the jewelry section. Jerry buys us practical things.

Yeah, it's a reasonable idea. I just doubt it will happen. I think it's Cole Young at 2B and probably Williamson at 3B, or Suarez on a 1 year deal. If Suarez doesn't sign, maybe at that point they'll look at other options.

I can about guarantee that throwing the rookies out there and seeing who sticks is not their plan. They have hinted that Polo is next and maybe Geno after that. But that’s where these trades come in Donavan is an option, D-Backs vets are options, we have the farm to get premium parts.

Listen all these plans are long shots. What does Detroit want? How do they value any of our prospects, young pitching, and with Luis vet pitching.

[Pharmabro]

I mean, he's a 3-4 win player when healthy.

We are Mariner fans. We don't expect to be shopping in the jewelry section. Jerry buys us practical things.

Yeah, it's a reasonable idea. I just doubt it will happen. I think it's Cole Young at 2B and probably Williamson at 3B, or Suarez on a 1 year deal. If Suarez doesn't sign, maybe at that point they'll look at other options.

Geno is predicted to get a 3 year $72M deal. He hit 49 HRs last season. Teams will discount his two months hitting primarily at T Mobile. Zero chance he takes a one year deal especially hitting at T Mobile again. This is his last chance to get a good contract.

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I probably agree with this.

[GL_Storm]

I mean, he's a 3-4 win player when healthy.

We are Mariner fans. We don't expect to be shopping in the jewelry section. Jerry buys us practical things.

Yeah, it's a reasonable idea. I just doubt it will happen. I think it's Cole Young at 2B and probably Williamson at 3B, or Suarez on a 1 year deal. If Suarez doesn't sign, maybe at that point they'll look at other options.

I can about guarantee that throwing the rookies out there and seeing who sticks is not their plan. They have hinted that Polo is next and maybe Geno after that. But that’s where these trades come in Donavan is an option, D-Backs vets are options, we have the farm to get premium parts.

Listen all these plans are long shots. What does Detroit want? How do they value any of our prospects, young pitching, and with Luis vet pitching.

What is your basis for that? To me, it seems pretty obvious that the plan is to start Cole Young at 2B and Williamson at 3B. If they can sign Suarez, then he'll start at 3B and Williamson will either be on the bench or in Tacoma playing every day. But they probably know that Suarez is more likely to sign with another team.

All of that said, I'm sure they'll keep an open mind for situations that could give them an unexpected upgrade, like maybe one of the Japanese players, or a trade that comes up at the winter meetings. The winter meetings in particular could be really interesting.

[D-train]

Yeah they spell it out here. They aren't going to block them. That means no Marte trade or significant FA signings of bats.

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[HawkandMariner88]

I look at it as not so much being cheap as they really trust their scouts & player development people. Look their either gonna light the world on fire or crap on themselves. Nothing is a sure thing. Would you rather spend 100s of millions & have the guy bust & be on the hook for all that with no ability to rid yourself of the contracts or go with the youngsters with more low risk high upside. It's only gonna go one of 2 ways. It worked with Julio & Cal it can work with others. Will all hit, no. That's the beauty of baseball. Glass half full mentality here folks.

[Sexymarinersfan]

Per usual, DavidGee struggles with abstract thought.

The point of the this post is to show what trades would look like for popular names listed on this forum.

Not to say they would ever realistically complete all 3 of these trades in an off season.

Should I put this caveat in the beginning of the post so your singular brain cell doesn't melt and cause you to have an aneurysm? I thought me explaining this for the 15th time would have gotten through to you by now.

Bro, let's start with this: I know way more about this game than you do, and I even still play it at a top level.

We might well acquire Donovan, but the package is going to look at LOT different. The other two aren't going to happen. Okay, they're possible, but only ever so slightly.

You don't know way more about the game than me.

What you know is "ME SEE BASEBALL, ME HIT BASEBALL, WHY NOT BASEBALL GO OVER FENCE? ME ANGRY NOW. ME CLAIM OTHER TEAM CHEATING SO I HIT THEM WITH BASEBALL OR MY FIST."

You have never made a singular post that hints that you know more about baseball than me. Certainly not a post that indicates you know more about trade compensation. I literally predicted accurate trade comp for both Naylor and Geno at the deadline this year.

As I've said multiple times to you, these "plans" are not meant to be realistic. They're meant to spark conversation on a sports forum that allows multiple people to chime in about potential players available and the compensation it might take to acquire them. I don't know how to make that any more clear than I have to you.

You just don't know how to think like that... instead you make a moronic post replying to my thread like you just did. Be an adult, put some effort in, and you tell me what it would take to acquire Donovan in your opinion. That is how these places work unless you want to be the village neanderthal who sometimes chimes in with "MARINERS WIN!!! WE'RE HEROES!!!"

Curious. What were your proposals for Geno? For Naylor? I'm curious to see what they look like.

I disagree with your Castillo trade offer. The whole point of Detroit trying to trade Skubal is because they won't be able to afford to re-sign him. Which makes me scratch my head as to why they would take on an albatross contract like Castillo's? It would make more sense for them to target a cheaper better option in Miller or Woo.

[Optimistic M's Fan]

I look at it as not so much being cheap as they really trust their scouts & player development people. Look their either gonna light the world on fire or crap on themselves. Nothing is a sure thing. Would you rather spend 100s of millions & have the guy bust & be on the hook for all that with no ability to rid yourself of the contracts or go with the youngsters with more low risk high upside. It's only gonna go one of 2 ways. It worked with Julio & Cal it can work with others. Will all hit, no. That's the beauty of baseball. Glass half full mentality here folks.

I can't agree more. Paying for superstars doesn't always pan out. Ask the Angels how it worked out having Shohei, Trout and Rendon, followed by a ton of scrubs. We already have enough superstars. We aren't rolling out a 250 mil payroll, whether we can afford it or not. I'd much rather make a medium sized trade for someone like Donavan that could take 2nd or 3rd and use either young or williamson in the other position. Get Yandy or Polanco for DH and call it a day. I'd love a team of superstars, but it isn't happening. What we need is to be well rounded and have flexibility at the deadline to add where we need to. We have the payroll space to do that. We still keep 90% of our farm to keep adding to the roster with minimum salaries and the ability to keep staying in this. Look at Texas, Arizona, all these teams that went all out and now are in a straight teardown with bloated contracts. I want to win a world series as much as anyone, but I also would like to be competitive year in and year out. Not good for 1-2 years and a then a 5 year rebuild again.