The official Hot Stove League Thread 2025-26 Offseason

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Post by Southpaw773 » Wed Jan 28, 2026 2:24 am

Catching depth signing. Jhonny Pereda from twins who was recently dfa.

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Re: The official Hot Stove League Thread 2025-26 Offseason

Post by D-train » Wed Jan 28, 2026 3:54 am

Sexymarinersfan wrote:
Wed Jan 28, 2026 12:18 am
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Tue Jan 27, 2026 10:45 pm
Sodomojo really starting to ask wtf is the FO thinking with sitting on all this prospect capital in a go for it season. Great to see. And the one top prospect they do trade is for a project reliever.

https://sodomojo.com/mlb-pipeline-prosp ... kfyt8efbxp
I'm not an overly huge fan of Sodomojo. Thats not to say I don't appreciate their perspective. I'm ok with trading Harry Ford for Ferrer, especially if Ferrer turns into a Munoz, in which I would've traded Ford for in a heartbeat. Our pen needed an infusion, and so far I like what I see.

As far as our other prospects go, the M's have all the way up until the deadline to go out and make a deal for a bat. I'm still convinced that the M's aren't out on Polanco, especially if the Mets aren't in it at the deadline.
Sodomojo has written a lot of goofy homer shit over the years but they have been much better lately. I am ok with the Ford trade too just ironic that the first time Jerry trades a top prospect since Noelvi it is for a project reliever. Not out of the realm of possibility that this become Varitek for Slocumb 2.0. Ferrer definitely isn't turning into Munoz but he could be useful for a couple seasons.

Waiting until the deadline is an asinine strategy giving yourself only 2 months of impact instead of 6. Imagine if we had Naylor all season. D Back got him for a 5/6 starter worse than Hancock.

Mets are projected to win two more games than we are this season so more likely we are selling Randy to them.
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Re: The official Hot Stove League Thread 2025-26 Offseason

Post by D-train » Wed Jan 28, 2026 3:58 am

Sexymarinersfan wrote:
Wed Jan 28, 2026 1:19 am
D-train wrote:
Wed Jan 28, 2026 1:03 am
Donn Beach wrote:
Tue Jan 27, 2026 11:41 pm
I think it involves the deadline but it's not deciding if you're going for it as much as extending the runway deal with your younger players. It isn't so much making a decision on a trade but delaying a decision into the season. And I think it's been how dipoto has been operating. He's tended to look at the deadline to add a significant pieces. He'll wait until the deadline to add an infield bat
:lol: Thanks for the new insights. I had no idea about about his idiotic strategy. Would have been horrible to have Naylor all season last year. I guess he wanted to give Runway to Solano and Tellez....
Mannnnnn!! Last offseason pissed me off so much! Thats why I'm a little more patient with how our current offseason is going. Its not great, but it could be worse. Locking down Naylor for 5yrs and getting Ferrer are huge. I don't think people realize how good both of these moves were.

Giving Colt Emerson and Cole Young a chance to shine isn't the worst possible idea in the world. :lol:
Naylor was obviously a good move but he wasn't even a new addition. Ferrer is yet to be seen.

We will see how giving a guy that finished in a 3-51 slump and a 20 yo that has played 40 games above A ball works out.

btw did you get a part time job with the M's PR dept.??? ;)
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Re: The official Hot Stove League Thread 2025-26 Offseason

Post by D-train » Wed Jan 28, 2026 4:03 am

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Dipoto has a clear pattern that he has established. He prefers to run it out there with what he's got so that he can use the early part of the year to evaluate need. Then he will make trades in season trades to plug known holes rather than trying to anticipate those holes ahead of time and shooting his wad in the off season. I don't agree with it but at least it gives a bit of hope that come July they will be willing to make the moves to pick up what they need to fill the holes.
If it was just the early part of the season I would be fine with it but it is a FOUR MONTH trial period try out camp even though he saw what he had at 2B and 3B and RF last season.
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Re: The official Hot Stove League Thread 2025-26 Offseason

Post by Donn Beach » Wed Jan 28, 2026 4:09 am

Sexymarinersfan wrote:
Wed Jan 28, 2026 12:18 am
D-train wrote:
Tue Jan 27, 2026 10:45 pm
Sodomojo really starting to ask wtf is the FO thinking with sitting on all this prospect capital in a go for it season. Great to see. And the one top prospect they do trade is for a project reliever.

https://sodomojo.com/mlb-pipeline-prosp ... kfyt8efbxp
I'm not an overly huge fan of Sodomojo. Thats not to say I don't appreciate their perspective. I'm ok with trading Harry Ford for Ferrer, especially if Ferrer turns into a Munoz, in which I would've traded Ford for in a heartbeat. Our pen needed an infusion, and so far I like what I see.

As far as our other prospects go, the M's have all the way up until the deadline to go out and make a deal for a bat. I'm still convinced that the M's aren't out on Polanco, especially if the Mets aren't in it at the deadline.
Not going to second guess their ability to judge pitching value. It's interesting they claim they've been after him for like six years. Interesting too they actually had to toss that other pitcher in. My question is why couldn't they have made that deal at the deadline?. Why wouldn't he have been available then as opposed to the off season. That's when they needed him.

And really to me it's a typical dipoto deal where he attends to one aspect of the team by weakening it someplace else, this being the catching. They let Garver walk, trade Ford and bring in Knisner as the replacement. So in effect the bullpen has been strengthened but the catching depth weakened.

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Re: The official Hot Stove League Thread 2025-26 Offseason

Post by D-train » Wed Jan 28, 2026 4:28 am

Donn Beach wrote:
Wed Jan 28, 2026 4:09 am
Sexymarinersfan wrote:
Wed Jan 28, 2026 12:18 am
D-train wrote:
Tue Jan 27, 2026 10:45 pm
Sodomojo really starting to ask wtf is the FO thinking with sitting on all this prospect capital in a go for it season. Great to see. And the one top prospect they do trade is for a project reliever.

https://sodomojo.com/mlb-pipeline-prosp ... kfyt8efbxp
I'm not an overly huge fan of Sodomojo. Thats not to say I don't appreciate their perspective. I'm ok with trading Harry Ford for Ferrer, especially if Ferrer turns into a Munoz, in which I would've traded Ford for in a heartbeat. Our pen needed an infusion, and so far I like what I see.

As far as our other prospects go, the M's have all the way up until the deadline to go out and make a deal for a bat. I'm still convinced that the M's aren't out on Polanco, especially if the Mets aren't in it at the deadline.
Not going to second guess their ability to judge pitching value. It's interesting they claim they've been after him for like six years. Interesting too they actually had to toss that other pitcher in. My question is why couldn't they have made that deal at the deadline?. Why wouldn't he have been available then as opposed to the off season. That's when they needed him.

And really to me it's a typical dipoto deal where he attends to one aspect of the team by weakening it someplace else, this being the catching. They let Garver walk, trade Ford and bring in Knisner as the replacement. So in effect the bullpen has been strengthened but the catching depth weakened.
Yeah, great question! Nats were obviously out of it at the deadline. Could have got him instead of Turd Ferguson.

And another good point on the the catching depth. There is really nothing now after Cal.
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Re: The official Hot Stove League Thread 2025-26 Offseason

Post by bhofferb » Wed Jan 28, 2026 5:37 am

Sexymarinersfan wrote:
Wed Jan 28, 2026 1:19 am
D-train wrote:
Wed Jan 28, 2026 1:03 am
Donn Beach wrote:
Tue Jan 27, 2026 11:41 pm
I think it involves the deadline but it's not deciding if you're going for it as much as extending the runway deal with your younger players. It isn't so much making a decision on a trade but delaying a decision into the season. And I think it's been how dipoto has been operating. He's tended to look at the deadline to add a significant pieces. He'll wait until the deadline to add an infield bat
:lol: Thanks for the new insights. I had no idea about about his idiotic strategy. Would have been horrible to have Naylor all season last year. I guess he wanted to give Runway to Solano and Tellez....
Mannnnnn!! Last offseason pissed me off so much! Thats why I'm a little more patient with how our current offseason is going. Its not great, but it could be worse. Locking down Naylor for 5yrs and getting Ferrer are huge. I don't think people realize how good both of these moves were.

Giving Colt Emerson and Cole Young a chance to shine isn't the worst possible idea in the world. :lol:
Until they don't shine and we miss the playoffs. But as long as the M's play meaningful games in August, Jerry and Co will be happy...

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Re: The official Hot Stove League Thread 2025-26 Offseason

Post by Sexymarinersfan » Wed Jan 28, 2026 1:30 pm

D-train wrote:
Wed Jan 28, 2026 3:58 am
Sexymarinersfan wrote:
Wed Jan 28, 2026 1:19 am
D-train wrote:
Wed Jan 28, 2026 1:03 am


:lol: Thanks for the new insights. I had no idea about about his idiotic strategy. Would have been horrible to have Naylor all season last year. I guess he wanted to give Runway to Solano and Tellez....
Mannnnnn!! Last offseason pissed me off so much! Thats why I'm a little more patient with how our current offseason is going. Its not great, but it could be worse. Locking down Naylor for 5yrs and getting Ferrer are huge. I don't think people realize how good both of these moves were.

Giving Colt Emerson and Cole Young a chance to shine isn't the worst possible idea in the world. :lol:
Naylor was obviously a good move but he wasn't even a new addition. Ferrer is yet to be seen.

We will see how giving a guy that finished in a 3-51 slump and a 20 yo that has played 40 games above A ball works out.

btw did you get a part time job with the M's PR dept.??? ;)
Like I said, last offseason pissed me off. I vowed not to watch any games last season. Y'all saw how that went lol. We still have 6 months to get something done, and 2 months before the season starts.

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Re: The official Hot Stove League Thread 2025-26 Offseason

Post by D-train » Wed Jan 28, 2026 2:52 pm

Sexymarinersfan wrote:
Wed Jan 28, 2026 1:30 pm
D-train wrote:
Wed Jan 28, 2026 3:58 am
Sexymarinersfan wrote:
Wed Jan 28, 2026 1:19 am


Mannnnnn!! Last offseason pissed me off so much! Thats why I'm a little more patient with how our current offseason is going. Its not great, but it could be worse. Locking down Naylor for 5yrs and getting Ferrer are huge. I don't think people realize how good both of these moves were.

Giving Colt Emerson and Cole Young a chance to shine isn't the worst possible idea in the world. :lol:
Naylor was obviously a good move but he wasn't even a new addition. Ferrer is yet to be seen.

We will see how giving a guy that finished in a 3-51 slump and a 20 yo that has played 40 games above A ball works out.

btw did you get a part time job with the M's PR dept.??? ;)
Like I said, last offseason pissed me off. I vowed not to watch any games last season. Y'all saw how that went lol. We still have 6 months to get something done, and 2 months before the season starts.
The good result doesn't not mean a good process. If Cal only had a very good season like 2024 and "only" hit 34 HRs instead of 60 we miss the playoffs. If the D Backs had a better 1st half and aren't sellers at the deadline, we miss the playoffs. Counting on that to happen again is a very BAD process even if they luck into it again. btw who is going to be available at the deadline, Donovan? He is a 3 WAR player so two months of him would get you ONE WAR. Is that going to be enough to get us to the division title again?
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Re: The official Hot Stove League Thread 2025-26 Offseason

Post by D-train » Wed Jan 28, 2026 3:54 pm

Sexymarinersfan wrote:
Wed Jan 28, 2026 1:30 pm
D-train wrote:
Wed Jan 28, 2026 3:58 am
Sexymarinersfan wrote:
Wed Jan 28, 2026 1:19 am


Mannnnnn!! Last offseason pissed me off so much! Thats why I'm a little more patient with how our current offseason is going. Its not great, but it could be worse. Locking down Naylor for 5yrs and getting Ferrer are huge. I don't think people realize how good both of these moves were.

Giving Colt Emerson and Cole Young a chance to shine isn't the worst possible idea in the world. :lol:
Naylor was obviously a good move but he wasn't even a new addition. Ferrer is yet to be seen.

We will see how giving a guy that finished in a 3-51 slump and a 20 yo that has played 40 games above A ball works out.

btw did you get a part time job with the M's PR dept.??? ;)
Like I said, last offseason pissed me off. I vowed not to watch any games last season. Y'all saw how that went lol. We still have 6 months to get something done, and 2 months before the season starts.
One other point is they significant trade and signing almost never happen during ST. Ps and Cs report to Peoria in less than 2 weeks. We could still sign Geno but all other FAs are locked up.
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