Mariners try to hold off the Stranglers game thread

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Re: Mariners try to hold off the Stranglers game thread

Post by Millikin » Sat Mar 07, 2026 4:03 am

Donn Beach wrote:
Sat Mar 07, 2026 1:59 am
I still remember Mike Zunino's 2018 spring, crazy hot
Performance: Hit 3 home runs in a single Cactus League game against the Brewers.
Streak: Over a 5-game span, he went 11-for-16 with 4 home runs and 10 RBIs.
Status: Manager Scott Servais noted he was "locked in" and ready for Opening Day.
His season... .201 /.259 /.410

That cured me of bothering about spring training
Spring training is bullshit. It's a dirty tease before the regular season and nothing the players do predicts anything. I'd rather watch soccer.

WBC on the other hand, I enjoy.
Julio with a good night tonight, 3/5 with a homerun.
Cal no hits but a couple of walks.
Speier looked good, but allowed a lazy flyball type of homerun off a scrub.
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Re: Mariners try to hold off the Stranglers game thread

Post by Donn Beach » Sat Mar 07, 2026 4:37 am

Millikin wrote:
Sat Mar 07, 2026 4:03 am
Donn Beach wrote:
Sat Mar 07, 2026 1:59 am
I still remember Mike Zunino's 2018 spring, crazy hot
Performance: Hit 3 home runs in a single Cactus League game against the Brewers.
Streak: Over a 5-game span, he went 11-for-16 with 4 home runs and 10 RBIs.
Status: Manager Scott Servais noted he was "locked in" and ready for Opening Day.
His season... .201 /.259 /.410

That cured me of bothering about spring training
Spring training is bullshit. It's a dirty tease before the regular season and nothing the players do predicts anything. I'd rather watch soccer.

WBC on the other hand, I enjoy.
Julio with a good night tonight, 3/5 with a homerun.
Cal no hits but a couple of walks.
Speier looked good, but allowed a lazy flyball type of homerun off a scrub.
Yeah, spring training was originally held because players needed to get in shape. These days players show up in condition. They are training the entire year. Exhibition games were created so they could charge admission. I agree the classic is more legitimate competition which makes it interesting .

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Re: Mariners try to hold off the Stranglers game thread

Post by bpj » Sat Mar 07, 2026 7:05 am

Funny how spring training means nothing, but somehow young and fringe players can still play their way onto the team based on it.

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Re: Mariners try to hold off the Stranglers game thread

Post by Donn Beach » Sat Mar 07, 2026 3:51 pm

bpj wrote:
Sat Mar 07, 2026 7:05 am
Funny how spring training means nothing, but somehow young and fringe players can still play their way onto the team based on it.
I think that's one of the real fallacies. I need to find the quote from Hollander from awhile ago that states he needs to remind everyone that spring training statistics don't mean anything. They are making player decisions but they really aren't based on a few hits or none hits in spring training games.

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Re: Mariners try to hold off the Stranglers game thread

Post by Donn Beach » Sat Mar 07, 2026 4:38 pm

Here's another AI explanation for a question about Hollanders views on spring training. Probably a pretty good rundown of whats spring training is about
Hollander GM value of spring training statistics


Based on his tenure as Seattle Mariners General Manager and EVP of Baseball Operations, Justin Hollander—alongside President of Baseball Operations Jerry Dipoto—tends to treat spring training statistics with a high degree of skepticism, valuing them primarily for logistical, health, and skill-alignment purposes rather than as predictors of regular-season performance.


Hollander’s approach to spring training, as evidenced by his comments and team strategy, focuses on the following:
Process Over Results: Hollander focuses on how players are performing within their routines, their physical health, and their "swing decisions" (such as chase rate and contact quality) rather than raw batting averages or ERA in March.

Health and Conditioning Checks: A primary, high-value use of spring training for the front office is to ensure players are recovered from off-season injuries, such as monitoring pitchers' velocity and stamina in their return to action.

Role Identification and "Balance": The front office uses spring training to see how different roster pieces fit together, specifically testing lineup combinations to maximize power and manage strikeouts.

Developmental Milestones: For young players, spring training is used to gauge if they are ready for the next level, particularly for prospects on the cusp of the Major Leagues, as demonstrated by his evaluations of Kade Anderson and Ryan Sloan.

Contextualizing Statistics: Hollander, along with the organization, acknowledges that early-season, cold-weather conditions (such as in Arizona) can skew offensive results.
I asked if the games are important. It seemed to think so
Yes, you can run a spring training camp without exhibition games by focusing solely on practice, inter-squad scrimmages, and conditioning. However, it is not recommended, as exhibition games are crucial for building game-day stamina, testing prospects, and providing game-speed reps that simulations cannot replicate

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Re: Mariners try to hold off the Stranglers game thread

Post by Double Mocha Man » Sat Mar 07, 2026 9:24 pm

I seem to recall that we had a losing record in spring training the year we won 116 games.
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Re: Mariners try to hold off the Stranglers game thread

Post by D-train » Sat Mar 07, 2026 9:44 pm

Double Mocha Man wrote:
Sat Mar 07, 2026 9:24 pm
I seem to recall that we had a losing record in spring training the year we won 116 games.
We were 13-19 and the Yankees who beat us in the ALCS were 9-20.
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