Top 50 Mariners of all time

[D-train]

Ran across this nugget and decided to stash it in this thread.....

These are the top 10 in franchise history in OPS+
Name the missing player.

1. Nelson Cruz 148
2. Edgar Martinez 147
3. ????????? 145
4. Ken Griffey Jr. 144
5. Alex Rodriguez 138
6. Robinson Cano 129
7. Alvin Davis 128
8 Randy Arozarena 127
9. Jay Buhner 125
10. Julio Rodriguez 125

Hint. He spent 6 seasons in Seattle and he was traded away for someone else on this list.

Too easy.

https://www.google.com/search?q=seinfel ... nRW-8,st:0

[D-train]

Power hitter with more walks than Ks. Buhner still calls him Digger who is Jamie Moyers father in law... 2 month older than my Mom.

[DavidGee24]

Ran across this nugget and decided to stash it in this thread.....

These are the top 10 in franchise history in OPS+
Name the missing player.

1. Nelson Cruz 148
2. Edgar Martinez 147
3. ????????? 145
4. Ken Griffey Jr. 144
5. Alex Rodriguez 138
6. Robinson Cano 129
7. Alvin Davis 128
8 Randy Arozarena 127
9. Jay Buhner 125
10. Julio Rodriguez 125

Hint. He spent 6 seasons in Seattle and he was traded away for someone else on this list.

Too easy.

https://www.google.com/search?q=seinfel ... nRW-8,st:0

First name that popped into my head too. Too bad OPS didn't exist back then, he would have been appreciated a lot more. Plus, even though he crushed minor league pitching he was inexplicably kept down for a lot longer than he should have been.

[Donn Beach]

The billy beane poster boy

[D-train]

The billy beane poster boy

Yep. Seems so obvious. Add a on base stat with a slugging stat. Not rocket science. WAR is way more nebulous especially when bWAR and fWAR can't come to some sort of compromise.

[Captain 97]

I realize he never played a full season but how does a guy with a 145 OPS+ only amass 9.6 WAR in 6 seasons with the M's.
Look at his 1986 season compared to Edgars 94 season. What is the number in the formula that is keeping his WAR so low?

[Captain 97]

Answered my own question. I was thinking they were both primarily DH but Edgar played 64 games at 3B in 94 and Phelps played 55 Games at first base in 86 so its pretty much just positional adjustment. Phelps had a -1.8 dWAR and Edgar was at +.6.

[DavidGee24]

Answered my own question. I was thinking they were both primarily DH but Edgar played 64 games at 3B in 94 and Phelps played 55 Games at first base in 86 so its pretty much just positional adjustment. Phelps had a -1.8 dWAR and Edgar was at +.6.

First basemen who aren't great defensive players get totally screwed on WAR. Dick Allen and Fred McGriff are two other great examples.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/play ... di01.shtml
https://www.baseball-reference.com/play ... fr01.shtml