Brainless clowns are still play Ward over Laz GT

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Re: Brainless clowns are still play Ward over Laz GT

Post by D-train » Thu Sep 17, 2026 1:16 pm

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So management gives the fans a big FU by playing Ward instead of Zaro, and Ward goes 0-5 with 3 Ks. He's now 9-85 (.105). Fucking clown show.
Lil trivia: Who was Jerry last 1st round pick as Angels GM

Answer: Taylor Ward

Current line with us in 98 PAs: .106/.224/.129/.354 :lol: :lol: :lol: :oops: :oops: :oops: :roll: :roll: :roll:

It is literally impossible for a major league hitter to have a .129 SLG% in almost 100 PAs but his has somehow pulled it off....
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Re: Brainless clowns are still play Ward over Laz GT

Post by Donn Beach » Thu Sep 17, 2026 1:43 pm

Article about Ward, pointing out how streaky he is, that we got him in a low point. But looking at the graph it looks to me it's more his not pulling out of one of his typical slumps after the trade. He should of headed up afterwards, instead he's heading to the bottom of the graph paper. It would seem to point to the wacky luck they seem to have trading for players
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Re: Brainless clowns are still play Ward over Laz GT

Post by D-train » Thu Sep 17, 2026 1:51 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2026 1:43 pm
Article about Ward, pointing out how streaky he is, that we got him in a low point. But looking at the graph it looks to me it's more his not pulling out of one of his typical slumps after the trade. He should of headed up afterwards, instead he's heading to the bottom of the graph paper. It would seem to point to the wacky luck they seem to have trading for players
This to me is the most important thing that has to change. This insane notion and slow playing everything and keep rolling out guys that are absolutely sucking for months. It provides a culture of not win now and not make decisive decisions when it's clear that things are not going well but just keep rolling with it. Players cannot be happy with this mentality and it's a terrible culture and message to send. Only way this change is if they get rid of Jerry and completely clean house. He's so committed to the bit and will never change.
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Re: Brainless clowns are still play Ward over Laz GT

Post by Donn Beach » Thu Sep 17, 2026 2:29 pm

Or on the other hand, players could be happy with it because it demonstrates that they will stick with a guy even if he's sucking. I think players mostly are concerned about their own survival, seeing that can indicate their getting the same patience if and when they suck.

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Re: Brainless clowns are still play Ward over Laz GT

Post by Big_Maple » Thu Sep 17, 2026 2:50 pm

D-train wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2026 1:51 pm

This to me is the most important thing that has to change. This insane notion and slow playing everything and keep rolling out guys that are absolutely sucking for months. It provides a culture of not win now and not make decisive decisions when it's clear that things are not going well but just keep rolling with it. Players cannot be happy with this mentality and it's a terrible culture and message to send. Only way this change is if they get rid of Jerry and completely clean house. He's so committed to the bit and will never change.
You and I see pretty much eye to eye on most things, DT. I am with you on this as well, but I think the issues are deeper and more systemic than this.

Look: for all the black-pill posts, I still want the M’s to win with the pure, uncut desperation of a true believer. They’re my team. Every time I swear I’m done, I come crawling back like a Real Housewives boy toy who’s already been fired twice and still thinks this season’s the one.

The entire organization is just straight-up rotten to the core. The institution is not built around a culture of winning. It’s a meticulously curated shrine to mediocrity. Dan Wilson is so far out of his depth he's dog paddling in the middle of the Pacific. Dipoto would be selling used cars wearing a Herb Tarlek castoff suit if he wasn't Stanton's lap dog. And Stanton? He's a shrewd, weaselly little profit-vampire who treats the club like an ATM. He happily pockets profits without giving 2 shits about whether they win or lose.

Bottom line is this: this organization will never be serious if they don't build a winning culture. This losing season is viewed dispassionately as just part of the law of averages. Better luck next year.

So yeah - we can change our coaching staff. We can develop our farm system. Hell, we can even get a better-than-average bat in the offseason. But all of this shit is nothing more than shuffling the deck chairs. Nothing will change until the people who run this organization - from top to bottom - quit, move one, get fired, or get bored and sell the team and are all replaced by serious baseball fans. We need people who love baseball first, and love winning second. For as much as I hate the Dodgers, I am sick with envy that they have an owner and GM that shred the jugular of every other team in the league just to win one more game. That's the energy this team needs.

Until then, the organization doesn't give a flying fuck about the people on this board - they know we will all be fans no matter how good or bad the team is. So why eat profits to build a better team when you can build a roster with mediocre talent that you salvaged from a dumpster fire behind the Dollar Store?

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Re: Brainless clowns are still play Ward over Laz GT

Post by D-train » Thu Sep 17, 2026 2:52 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2026 2:29 pm
Or on the other hand, players could be happy with it because it demonstrates that they will stick with a guy even if he's sucking. I think players mostly are concerned about their own survival, seeing that can indicate their getting the same patience if and when they suck.
So you are going to make Taylor Ward and Refsnyder happy at the detriment of the team while demonstrating to the rest of the team that you really don't have to perform to keep your jobs. Awesome accountibily. Also message to minor leaguers. It doesn't matter how you are doing, we are sticking with dogshit MLB players vs. giving you a chance. Another great message.
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Re: Brainless clowns are still play Ward over Laz GT

Post by Donn Beach » Thu Sep 17, 2026 3:33 pm

D-train wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2026 2:52 pm
Donn Beach wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2026 2:29 pm
Or on the other hand, players could be happy with it because it demonstrates that they will stick with a guy even if he's sucking. I think players mostly are concerned about their own survival, seeing that can indicate their getting the same patience if and when they suck.
So you are going to make Taylor Ward and Refsnyder happy at the detriment of the team while demonstrating to the rest of the team that you really don't have to perform to keep your jobs. Awesome accountibily. Also message to minor leaguers. It doesn't matter how you are doing, we are sticking with dogshit MLB players vs. giving you a chance. Another great message.
I'm not defending it. I'm saying I don't know about projecting fans attitudes to ML players. I don't think players sit around grumbling about why don't they cut that guy. I think it's a more circle the wagons attitude. I think Wilson very much exhibits that sort of attitude.

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Re: Brainless clowns are still play Ward over Laz GT

Post by harmony » Thu Sep 17, 2026 4:28 pm

Big_Maple wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2026 2:50 pm
Until then, the organization doesn't give a flying fuck about the people on this board - they know we will all be fans no matter how good or bad the team is. So why eat profits to build a better team when you can build a roster with mediocre talent that you salvaged from a dumpster fire behind the Dollar Store?
The front office, especially those on the business side, see great value in a forum such as this one despite its overwhelming negative sentiments.

Business people grow concern when no one is talking about their product. An analogy is found in the old adage "Bad publicity is better than no publicity."

The concept is discussed in this free online course Value Co-Creation in Sports Mangement:

https://www.edx.org/learn/sports-busine ... ng-society

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Re: Brainless clowns are still play Ward over Laz GT

Post by DavidGee24 » Thu Sep 17, 2026 4:41 pm

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Thu Sep 17, 2026 4:10 am
Naylor lolligags back to the base and Angie defends it because she thinks he didn't know Neto caught it. WTF If he wasn't sure he should get back quickly regardless...
I wonder how many other franchise's broadcasters would have done the same thing. Probably none. I watch some of the Yankee games and their broadcasters sure as hell wouldn't do that.

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Re: Brainless clowns are still play Ward over Laz GT

Post by D-train » Thu Sep 17, 2026 4:44 pm

DavidGee24 wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2026 4:41 pm
D-train wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2026 4:10 am
Naylor lolligags back to the base and Angie defends it because she thinks he didn't know Neto caught it. WTF If he wasn't sure he should get back quickly regardless...
I wonder how many other franchise's broadcasters would have done the same thing. Probably none. I watch some of the Yankee games and their broadcasters sure as hell wouldn't do that.
btw you "what has gone wrong with the season post has about 50 likes and counting on X"
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