IMO may be controversial

[bpj]

Couldn't agree more.

Players like Randy and Luis shouldnt reach free agency while they're on the Mariners.

Trade the expiring players, get new ones.

The Mariners completely skip this step in team building.

You can either be a big budget team, or you have to add talent the few other ways available.

Which includes trading expiring players for replacements, not letting them walk with nothing in return.

Well they can give Randy a QO for a draft pick that MIGHT help the team in 2031....

True, as long as they actually give him the offer that would at least be something coming back for the sustainability of the organization.

But if they don't make the offer because they don't want to get stuck paying the $20M like they've done in the past... it's a problem, imo.

[desbcoach]

They have no urgency ever. And that's the problem with the whole org.

This year is a bust - let it play out and hope for the best.

I’d say that we should trade away some starting pitching for an established right handed bat (right fielder) and a 3B. I’ve been looking at the free agent class for 2027 and it looks pretty thin for rightfielders and third base. In fact, there’s practically nothing that will be available at third base, and most of the right field free agents are expensive, on the wrong side of 30, and/or are under performing this season.

Yes, get rid of Luis Castillo. But that will likely just get us a short-term rental for the season. Will likely need to part with one of our younger pictures like Kirby to get something back in return. With a couple of kids waiting in the wings, I think we can do it, and now is the time.

I think they are looking at Arroyo as a OF next year and heck if he keeps hitting in Tacoma maybe in Sept

[AlvinDavisFan21]

I've said in other threads that I don't think they should be buyers at the deadline, and I suspect that's what the front office is thinking as well, which may have something to do with Jerry's recent comments about contending teams trading with each other, as opposed to the traditional fire sale scenarios. If they do make a deal, I don't think it will be for a pure rental type.

I think they'll definitely try to trade Castillo. I'd like to see them trade Randy as well. I'm tired of these guys walking for nothing.

And keep Sloan and Anderson in the minors. There's zero reason to bring them up this year.

They should absolutely be sellers.

[D-train]

What happened with Julio yesterday is a microcosm for the problem with the picture at large.

Hollander said that Julio didn't start yesterday because they wanted him to go through a full pre-game warm up to see how he responded. There was a whole ass All Star break for him to do this. You're telling me they couldn't have had him show up to the stadium Thursday and do a mock pre-game warm up and see his response? Instead, they act like yesterday's game doesn't matter and boom 7-0, 2-hit loss with his replacement pushing a moronic bunt only to get thrown out stealing 5 seconds later.

Then he said that Donovan will be in Tacoma for a "long" rehab assignment. They said it will be so long that he will alternate between playing in Tacoma and Everett, meaning that this will take place over multiple home trips for Tacoma.

I mean... let Donovan hit in 3 games and get his ass up on the fucking roster.

They have no urgency ever. And that's the problem with the whole org.

Fucking nailed it right there. That's it. That is FUCKING IT!!!!!!

[D-train]

They have no urgency ever. And that's the problem with the whole org.

This year is a bust - let it play out and hope for the best.

I’d say that we should trade away some starting pitching for an established right handed bat (right fielder) and a 3B. I’ve been looking at the free agent class for 2027 and it looks pretty thin for rightfielders and third base. In fact, there’s practically nothing that will be available at third base, and most of the right field free agents are expensive, on the wrong side of 30, and/or are under performing this season.

Yes, get rid of Luis Castillo. But that will likely just get us a short-term rental for the season. Will likely need to part with one of our younger pictures like Kirby to get something back in return. With a couple of kids waiting in the wings, I think we can do it, and now is the time.

I appreciate that you have been looking at the FA market but when you suggest a trade for a RH RF and 3B that doesn't exist you should prob look at that too my friend.

[D-train]

They have no urgency ever. And that's the problem with the whole org.

This year is a bust - let it play out and hope for the best.

I’d say that we should trade away some starting pitching for an established right handed bat (right fielder) and a 3B. I’ve been looking at the free agent class for 2027 and it looks pretty thin for rightfielders and third base. In fact, there’s practically nothing that will be available at third base, and most of the right field free agents are expensive, on the wrong side of 30, and/or are under performing this season.

Yes, get rid of Luis Castillo. But that will likely just get us a short-term rental for the season. Will likely need to part with one of our younger pictures like Kirby to get something back in return. With a couple of kids waiting in the wings, I think we can do it, and now is the time.

I think they are looking at Arroyo as a OF next year and heck if he keeps hitting in Tacoma maybe in Sept

Yes is arroyo still in LF. If so that would be odd. I guess Laz is the RF.

[Seattle or Bust]

This year is a bust - let it play out and hope for the best.

I’d say that we should trade away some starting pitching for an established right handed bat (right fielder) and a 3B. I’ve been looking at the free agent class for 2027 and it looks pretty thin for rightfielders and third base. In fact, there’s practically nothing that will be available at third base, and most of the right field free agents are expensive, on the wrong side of 30, and/or are under performing this season.

Yes, get rid of Luis Castillo. But that will likely just get us a short-term rental for the season. Will likely need to part with one of our younger pictures like Kirby to get something back in return. With a couple of kids waiting in the wings, I think we can do it, and now is the time.

I think they are looking at Arroyo as a OF next year and heck if he keeps hitting in Tacoma maybe in Sept

Yes is arroyo still in LF. If so that would be odd. I guess Laz is the RF.

Imagine believing a Mariners rookie will ever come up and not need 2-3 years to figure it out.

Meanwhile, the Pirates have a 22 year old who was nowhere near a top 100 prospect list on pace for 50 homers/162 and a 1.079 OPS:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxZ4iZOiK_I

[Big_Maple]

I appreciate that you have been looking at the FA market but when you suggest a trade for a RH RF and 3B that doesn't exist you should prob look at that too my friend.

Actually, I was saying that the free agent market is thin for these 2 positions.

If we part with a young controllable arm, we ought to be able to get at least one of these positions through trade. Surely in 29 other major league teams there is one decent-to-stellar 3B or one RF that a team would be willing to part with.

[GL_Storm]

I appreciate that you have been looking at the FA market but when you suggest a trade for a RH RF and 3B that doesn't exist you should prob look at that too my friend.

Actually, I was saying that the free agent market is thin for these 2 positions.

If we part with a young controllable arm, we ought to be able to get at least one of these positions through trade. Surely in 29 other major league teams there is one decent-to-stellar 3B or one RF that a team would be willing to part with.

3B is pretty thin around the league.