A history of horrible post-millennium trade deadlines acquiring bats for the Seattle Mariners

[Seattle or Bust]

SoB - that was really helpful. Bravo. I’m sure it took a while to put that together.

But it’s like a bad therapy session where you relive all of the crap that sent you to therapy in the first place.

Question: is there a trade that could realistically happen in the next week or so that could buck that trend? Something that could actually benefit the organization without fleecing it?

I think the point is don't take half measures and expect them to work.

If you're gonna fkn trade, go for it.

[Big_Maple]

I think the point is don't take half measures and expect them to work.

If you're gonna fkn trade, go for it.

If you mean fkn go for it - are you saying make a few big trades to land substantial pieces with several years of control?

This would mean parting with some of our pitchers like Woo or Hancock or Gilbert to get some position players. Go big or go home.

Not saying I fully endorse this idea, but what about Jonathan India? There have been a lot of Reds rumors flying around, but a Woo for an India would be splashy. Is this what you’re taking about?

https://fansided.com/2023/07/25/mlb-rum ... s-trade/3/

[Seattle or Bust]

I think the point is don't take half measures and expect them to work.

If you're gonna fkn trade, go for it.

If you mean fkn go for it - are you saying make a few big trades to land substantial pieces with several years of control?

This would mean parting with some of our pitchers like Woo or Hancock or Gilbert to get some position players. Go big or go home.

Not saying I fully endorse this idea, but what about Jonathan India? There have been a lot of Reds rumors flying around, but a Woo for an India would be splashy. Is this what you’re taking about?

https://fansided.com/2023/07/25/mlb-rum ... s-trade/3/

Not really a big fan of trading for bats that aren't established. Not sure why the M's would trade Woo for a 2B w. a career 98 OPS+ who can't play defense.

As BPJ said, the M's don't need anymore question marks or role players. They need to add bats that will perform, no questions asked. Trade Gilbert for Arenado and Donovan... just do it. Go make it work... I don't care how.

I'm tired of the M's missing out on the Matt Olsons, the Sean Murphys, the Freddie Freemans, the Mookie Betts, the Arenados, the Goldschmidts, the Bryce Harpers, the Juan Sotos, the Manny Machados... why is it these teams get to have all the trade fun for star bats but we never do?

I just think it's hilarious that when trade talks come up all media heads in Seattle can do is think of terrible mid players to out and trade for. Why? Because this list illustrates that it's all that we do. Mark Canha seems like a gem to these people because Cameron Maybin is the standard. Fuck the standard and finally build a team capable of a world title.

[MarinerMike]

I remember Betancourt contributing to not getting Strasburg after a hot series to end 2008? Or am I thinking about someone else?

[Coeurd’Alene J]

Ohtani is having this translated to Japanese and we can rest assured we have proven our willingness to go that extra mile he is looking for

[D-train]

He just needs to watch this:

https://gfycat.com/clearcutquerulousharvestmen

[ddraig]

AAAA organization at its best! No F'ing Clue!

[Bil522]

Here is what the real problem is....except for Perez, who was hitting well before we traded for them? Prior to getting Castillo, we had never really jumped on a deal for a top end talent at the top of their career.

All that list proved was that ownership has let this franchise down for decades.

[TraderGary]

Ha - sorry boys.

The whole thing is pretty damning. It's amazing that in process of so many years that the only hitters they acquired who did anything of significance were Yonder Alonso and Dan Vogelbach. And I'm not even sure how appropriate it is to celebrate 2x slugs who hit for upper .700 OPS's at DH and 1B.

It really highlights a theme of sub-mediocre decision making based on being cheap.

Great work SoB.

I think what it also proves is that position players come to Seattle and virtually everyone on that list (with the possible exception of Branyan) had their OPS drop, and most of them significantly. I'm absolutely convinced it's the Safeco/T-Mobile effect. I keep harping on this, but it's past time to bring the fences in again. If they had done it right the first time, we wouldn't have this issue.

But yes, no matter what position the M's have been in at or near the trade deadline, the M's have ALWAYS shopped in the bargain bin. I think your great work highlights that about as well as it possibly can.

[Captain 97]

Miguel Olivo was acquired in the Freddy Garcia trade along with Jeremy Reed.