Luke Raley for Jose C

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Re: Luke Raley for Jose C

Post by Donn Beach » Sat Jan 06, 2024 10:21 am

Is this nitpicking? Dipoto doesn't say strikeouts, he says contact. It's the media that seems to have been saying strikeouts. And Garver makes good contact.

On not offering Teo the qualifier
“Despite the fact he didn’t have a great start to his season, he put up his numbers and he contributed down the stretch as much as any player we had. But we felt like this was an opportunity to kind of take a new look at the way our team is built. If there was a reason why we were sitting home in the postseason, we felt like it was probably the inability to consistently make contact.”

Garver's contact, chase rates
https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-p ... itting-mlb


How he describes himself as a hitter
“I tend to control the strike zone,” he said. “I like to look for pitches I can hit hard and I usually don’t sacrifice weak contact just to put a ball in play. Like I’m not going to swing at something just to swing at it. And you know, things go well. I’m a line drive hitter that can that can hit a few out of the park and I can move the ball around the field a little bit. I’m not a one-dimensional hitter by any means.”

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Re: Luke Raley for Jose C

Post by bpj » Sat Jan 06, 2024 11:36 am

Donn Beach wrote:
Sat Jan 06, 2024 10:21 am
Is this nitpicking? Dipoto doesn't say strikeouts, he says contact. It's the media that seems to have been saying strikeouts. And Garver makes good contact.

On not offering Teo the qualifier
“Despite the fact he didn’t have a great start to his season, he put up his numbers and he contributed down the stretch as much as any player we had. But we felt like this was an opportunity to kind of take a new look at the way our team is built. If there was a reason why we were sitting home in the postseason, we felt like it was probably the inability to consistently make contact.”

Garver's contact, chase rates
https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-p ... itting-mlb


How he describes himself as a hitter
“I tend to control the strike zone,” he said. “I like to look for pitches I can hit hard and I usually don’t sacrifice weak contact just to put a ball in play. Like I’m not going to swing at something just to swing at it. And you know, things go well. I’m a line drive hitter that can that can hit a few out of the park and I can move the ball around the field a little bit. I’m not a one-dimensional hitter by any means.”
I'm not sure Luke Raley knows what type of hitter Luke Raley is...
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Re: Luke Raley for Jose C

Post by D-train » Sat Jan 06, 2024 12:17 pm

Juliooooo wrote:
Sat Jan 06, 2024 4:58 am
Dude strikes out more than Geno and Teo…
Which proves my hypothesis that the "cut down on strikeouts" nonsense was just a ploy to cut payroll.

Outgoing K%s

Jarred Kelenic 31.7%
Teoscar Hernández 31.1%
Eugenio Suárez 30.8%
Tom Murphy 27.7%
José Caballero 23.6%

Average: 29.0%

Incoming K%

Zavala 36.3%
Raley 31.5%
Haniger 28.4%
Garver 23.8%
Urias 23.2%

Average: 28.6%
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Re: Luke Raley for Jose C

Post by D-train » Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:00 pm

I suppose we should be thankful for Franco's fetish for fourteen yo's.
Rays trade Luke Raley and Andrew Kittredge. Here’s why
Jose Caballero gives the team protection up the middle as Wander Franco faces an uncertain future. Richie Palacios replaces Raley’s left-handed bat
Holy shit
The Rays are comfortable with Caballero its opening day shortstop, Neander said.

“We made this trade confident he can play shortstop,” Neander said. “His makeup, his work ethic and ability over there. He can play it and play it very well. ... He’ll have a shot to take it out of the gates.”
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Re: Luke Raley for Jose C

Post by D-train » Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:57 pm

Jerry trades for the American Ohtani. Chills:
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Re: Luke Raley for Jose C

Post by Pharmabro » Sat Jan 06, 2024 2:53 pm

D-train wrote:
Sat Jan 06, 2024 4:00 am
Pharmabro wrote:
Sat Jan 06, 2024 3:36 am
D-train wrote:
Sat Jan 06, 2024 3:04 am
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=8946#p276589
They each deserve their own thread or none of them do.

I do not enjoy the threads that go 90 pages deep and have 138 topics in them. I guess some of the grumpy fucking goats think any thread they didn't start is spamming the board. I say go get fucked.

And twiddle fucking dumb following DT around like:
FFS man I didn't say it didn't deserve its own thread. I just thought you might want to read the discussion we had about him during the 5 hours that the trade was announced and when you started this thread. Sorry. I will just let you think you were Johnny on the spot with the breaking news next time. lol
I did read all pages. I just wanted to have a Luke R. solo thread.

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Re: Luke Raley for Jose C

Post by D-train » Sat Jan 06, 2024 2:59 pm

Okay yes each trade deserves its own thread I totally agree
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Re: Luke Raley for Jose C

Post by ice99 » Sat Jan 06, 2024 4:54 pm

D-train wrote:
Sat Jan 06, 2024 12:17 pm
Juliooooo wrote:
Sat Jan 06, 2024 4:58 am
Dude strikes out more than Geno and Teo…
Which proves my hypothesis that the "cut down on strikeouts" nonsense was just a ploy to cut payroll.

Outgoing K%s

Jarred Kelenic 31.7%
Teoscar Hernández 31.1%
Eugenio Suárez 30.8%
Tom Murphy 27.7%
José Caballero 23.6%

Average: 29.0%

Incoming K%

Zavala 36.3%
Raley 31.5%
Haniger 28.4%
Garver 23.8%
Urias 23.2%

Average: 28.6%
Yes, everyone knows that Zavala was part of a payroll dump.

I was told by someone that the last 3 years are important.

Here's the last 3 year stats. Other than Raley (and Zavala), the next 5 players traded out had the higher Ks.


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Re: Luke Raley for Jose C

Post by D-train » Sat Jan 06, 2024 5:04 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Sat Jan 06, 2024 10:21 am
Is this nitpicking? Dipoto doesn't say strikeouts, he says contact. It's the media that seems to have been saying strikeouts. And Garver makes good contact.

On not offering Teo the qualifier
“Despite the fact he didn’t have a great start to his season, he put up his numbers and he contributed down the stretch as much as any player we had. But we felt like this was an opportunity to kind of take a new look at the way our team is built. If there was a reason why we were sitting home in the postseason, we felt like it was probably the inability to consistently make contact.”

Garver's contact, chase rates
https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-p ... itting-mlb


How he describes himself as a hitter
“I tend to control the strike zone,” he said. “I like to look for pitches I can hit hard and I usually don’t sacrifice weak contact just to put a ball in play. Like I’m not going to swing at something just to swing at it. And you know, things go well. I’m a line drive hitter that can that can hit a few out of the park and I can move the ball around the field a little bit. I’m not a one-dimensional hitter by any means.”
How do you improve contact without improving on Ks????
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Re: Luke Raley for Jose C

Post by Pharmabro » Sat Jan 06, 2024 5:06 pm

D-train wrote:
Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:00 pm
I suppose we should be thankful for Franco's fetish for fourteen yo's.
Rays trade Luke Raley and Andrew Kittredge. Here’s why
Jose Caballero gives the team protection up the middle as Wander Franco faces an uncertain future. Richie Palacios replaces Raley’s left-handed bat
Holy shit
The Rays are comfortable with Caballero its opening day shortstop, Neander said.

“We made this trade confident he can play shortstop,” Neander said. “His makeup, his work ethic and ability over there. He can play it and play it very well. ... He’ll have a shot to take it out of the gates.”
I also had that thought come up when I saw the Wander News keep coming out over the last week or so. But, is Raley a 30 HR/20 SB per 600 PAs that he showed he was pacing for last year?
I don't know, but that 13% line-drive stat and his last 2 months give reason for pause.

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