White Sox to Acquire Luis Castillo

[D-train]

Why would he have to play 3B?

He's a far, far superior defensive shortstop compared to Emerson.

I'm assuming if this trade is made that Emerson is sent back to Tacoma and Donovan is your everyday 3B.

Emerson has to work his bat out.

If you think they are moving the $95M wonder boy off SS where he is providing his only value, I don't know what to tell you. Can't believe you have followed this regime for over a decade and think they would even consider that for a millionth of a second...

They started him at 3B in favor of JP Crawford at SS...

They've already done it.

And I don't think that's true... if Emerson continues to struggle with the bat they'll have him sort things out in the minors.

Donovan will be back this week and JP back soon. We shall see...

[Donn Beach]

Bro...

Ofc if Castillo is pitching well the vesting option isn't that big of a deal.

But there's a very, very low chance that he pitches well given his regression and age.

I am projecting, and with good evidence, that he will in fact not pitch well and there's no way they pick up the vesting option.

What I said is it's in his control. It's simple to me. You don't think he will pitch well ok. But that's up to him. They aren't going to limit the innings of a productive pitcher. The vesting really is irrelevant.

How is that up to him?

He might just be a bad pitcher now.

Is he going to magically regain command, sit 98 mph, and have elite secondaries?

History isn't kind to players like him.

Huh...it's up to him to pitch well. I'm saying the option is irrelevant. Explain to me how he gets to 180 innings without pitching well? If he's on pace for 180 innings he's pitching well. I don't understand what the debate is about

[D-train]

Why would he have to play 3B?

He's a far, far superior defensive shortstop compared to Emerson.

I'm assuming if this trade is made that Emerson is sent back to Tacoma and Donovan is your everyday 3B.

Emerson has to work his bat out.

If you think they are moving the $95M wonder boy off SS where he is providing his only value, I don't know what to tell you. Can't believe you have followed this regime for over a decade and think they would even consider that for a millionth of a second...

They started him at 3B in favor of JP Crawford at SS...

They've already done it.

And I don't think that's true... if Emerson continues to struggle with the bat they'll have him sort things out in the minors.

But they aren't going to trade for a SS with YEARS of control to replace him.. Massive difference.

[GL_Storm]

Pipeline has already moved Boston Smith to the Seattle Top 30 list at #14. Seems like a decent get. Not a sure thing but he's got a chance.

So he isn't a sure thing like Kelenic and Emerson and Ackley.

He has better stats in A+ and AA than any M's prospect this Century.

I'm just saying he's somewhere in that second tier of prospects. I love the walks and hopefully he's strong-minded enough to maintain his approach. I think the Mariners advocate for a more aggressive style of hitting, so I guess we'll see how that works out. Also, I could see the Mariners trying him at different positions and putting him on a true utility player path.

[Seattle or Bust]

If you think they are moving the $95M wonder boy off SS where he is providing his only value, I don't know what to tell you. Can't believe you have followed this regime for over a decade and think they would even consider that for a millionth of a second...

They started him at 3B in favor of JP Crawford at SS...

They've already done it.

And I don't think that's true... if Emerson continues to struggle with the bat they'll have him sort things out in the minors.

But they aren't going to trade for a SS with YEARS of control to replace him.. Massive difference.

You may very well be right.

But they could also view him as a 3B which many pegged him as during his development. Especially considering we don't really have a real 3B in the org.

Trade for Lopez, move Emerson to 3B, have Dono play the outfield. Could be your best chance to improve in '27.

[Donn Beach]

What I said is it's in his control. It's simple to me. You don't think he will pitch well ok. But that's up to him. They aren't going to limit the innings of a productive pitcher. The vesting really is irrelevant.

How is that up to him?

He might just be a bad pitcher now.

Is he going to magically regain command, sit 98 mph, and have elite secondaries?

History isn't kind to players like him.

He just needs to try harder. Maybe Felix can become his pitching and mental skill coach this off season.

Maybe he will who knows. They aren't going to have to limit his innings if he isn't pitching well. And if he is pitching well why would they limit his innings?

Honestly, I think along with more financial classes for highschool students they should kick in some in logic as well

[Seattle or Bust]

What I said is it's in his control. It's simple to me. You don't think he will pitch well ok. But that's up to him. They aren't going to limit the innings of a productive pitcher. The vesting really is irrelevant.

How is that up to him?

He might just be a bad pitcher now.

Is he going to magically regain command, sit 98 mph, and have elite secondaries?

History isn't kind to players like him.

Huh...it's up to him to pitch well. I'm saying the option is irrelevant. Explain to me how he gets to 180 innings without pitching well? If he's on pace for 180 innings he's pitching well. I don't understand what the debate is about

If he is cooked, it's not "up to him" to pitch better. He may just not be very good anymore.

We aren't explaining him getting to 180 innings. We believe he is going to suck next year the White Sox wont let him near those 180 innings.

You're arguing very slim odds that he's worth that vesting option. We have had the stance that the odds of that option vesting because he's actually pitching well are insanely low.

[harmony]

Last offseason MLB Trade Rumors ranked Luke Weaver and Seranthony Dominguez No. 41 and No. 43 on its rankings of free agents, projecting two-year, $18 million contracts for each right-hander.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2025/11/ ... tions.html

Weaver signed for $22 million and Dominguez for $20 million.

[GL_Storm]

How is that up to him?

He might just be a bad pitcher now.

Is he going to magically regain command, sit 98 mph, and have elite secondaries?

History isn't kind to players like him.

Huh...it's up to him to pitch well. I'm saying the option is irrelevant. Explain to me how he gets to 180 innings without pitching well? If he's on pace for 180 innings he's pitching well. I don't understand what the debate is about

If he is cooked, it's not "up to him" to pitch better. He may just not be very good anymore.

We aren't explaining him getting to 180 innings. We believe he is going to suck next year the White Sox wont let him near those 180 innings.

You're arguing very slim odds that he's worth that vesting option. We have had the stance that the odds of that option vesting because he's actually pitching well are insanely low.

This is such a stupid, pedantic argument. Both of you are morons that just like arguing.

[Seattle or Bust]

Huh...it's up to him to pitch well. I'm saying the option is irrelevant. Explain to me how he gets to 180 innings without pitching well? If he's on pace for 180 innings he's pitching well. I don't understand what the debate is about

If he is cooked, it's not "up to him" to pitch better. He may just not be very good anymore.

We aren't explaining him getting to 180 innings. We believe he is going to suck next year the White Sox wont let him near those 180 innings.

You're arguing very slim odds that he's worth that vesting option. We have had the stance that the odds of that option vesting because he's actually pitching well are insanely low.

This is such a stupid, pedantic argument. Both of you are morons that just like arguing.

Ah right, pedantic to just sit there while some moron claims that there's a snowball's chance in hell that a 34 year old pitcher who is physically declining, performing like shit, and on pace to throw 155 innings this year (not hurt)... is going to magically pull a horse shoe out of his ass next year and justify a $25M vesting option... and not say anything?

You would have to be criminally stupid to think Castillo has a chance to make ANY team want to pay him $25M in 2028 given the trajectory of his performance.

Do you know how many pitchers toss 180 innings each year? About 20. Out of 200ish starting pitchers.

But sure, the stances are equal. Thanks GL_Storm... great input...