GT 8.19.26 M's #1 Prospect Suddenly Retires; can't show his face as Mariner

[bpj]

Meh.

I think Dipoto traded away several of Z's minor league future All Stars and then signed bums.

In Z's first year he went and got Russell Branyan. In Dipoto's first year he went and got Nori Aoki.

Z only got 6 seasons and inherited this slop in 2009:

[D-train]

Jack Z was not better than Jerry. You got it bro! lmao

[DanielVogelbach]

Jack Z was not better than Jerry. You got it bro! lmao

What are we talking about here? 7 years... 5th worst record in MLB over that span. Never worked another GM job afterward. Saddled the team with worst farm system in the majors and a 10 year Cano contract.

I'm not saying he was terrible either. He probably had some semblance of an idea what he was doing, just like Jerry does.

Fans are hilarious always calling for the GM's head like they're so smart. lol. I get a kick out of it, that's why I'm engaging here. The fact of the matter is most teams ain't gonna win the World Series no matter who they put in as GM.

[DanielVogelbach]

Meh.

I think Dipoto traded away several of Z's minor league future All Stars and then signed bums.

Baseball America had the farm system ranked #28th when Jerry took over. So, if they were future stars, consensus didn't see it that way.

[bpj]

Meh.

I think Dipoto traded away several of Z's minor league future All Stars and then signed bums.

Baseball America had the farm system ranked #28th when Jerry took over. So, if they were future stars, consensus didn't see it that way.

Exactly. I don't care what consensus said before they arrived. We know exactly how it actually turned out.

Dipoto traded away Freddy Peralta, Ketel Marte, Pablo Lopez, Chris Taylor, who had 7 All-Star appearances between them. 89.4 fWAR between them.

That's probably at least more than twice what all of Dipoto's main offseason acquisitions have gotten while he's paid them $300M across 10 years.

[DanielVogelbach]

Meh.

I think Dipoto traded away several of Z's minor league future All Stars and then signed bums.

Baseball America had the farm system ranked #28th when Jerry took over. So, if they were future stars, consensus didn't see it that way.

Exactly. I don't care what consensus said before they arrived. We know exactly how it actually turned out.

Dipoto traded away Freddy Peralta, Ketel Marte, Pablo Lopez, Chris Taylor, who had 7 All-Star appearances between them. 89.4 fWAR between them.

That's probably at least more than twice what all of Dipoto's main offseason acquisitions have gotten while he's paid them $300M across 10 years.

Exactly. So hire a GM that has a crystal ball. Win the World Series every year. Easy Peezy.

[bpj]

Baseball America had the farm system ranked #28th when Jerry took over. So, if they were future stars, consensus didn't see it that way.

Exactly. I don't care what consensus said before they arrived. We know exactly how it actually turned out.

Dipoto traded away Freddy Peralta, Ketel Marte, Pablo Lopez, Chris Taylor, who had 7 All-Star appearances between them. 89.4 fWAR between them.

That's probably at least more than twice what all of Dipoto's main offseason acquisitions have gotten while he's paid them $300M across 10 years.

Exactly. So hire a GM that has a crystal ball. Win the World Series every year. Easy Peezy.

The whole forum says every year how Dipoto stopped a move or two short.

It doesn't take a crystal ball, it takes actually doing what it takes to win. Jerry's a terrible judge of how complete the team is.

You love Jerry and want to fondle his balls, we get it.

[D-train]

Exactly. I don't care what consensus said before they arrived. We know exactly how it actually turned out.

Dipoto traded away Freddy Peralta, Ketel Marte, Pablo Lopez, Chris Taylor, who had 7 All-Star appearances between them. 89.4 fWAR between them.

That's probably at least more than twice what all of Dipoto's main offseason acquisitions have gotten while he's paid them $300M across 10 years.

Exactly. So hire a GM that has a crystal ball. Win the World Series every year. Easy Peezy.

The whole forum says every year how Dipoto stopped a move or two short.

It doesn't take a crystal ball, it takes actually doing what it takes to win. Jerry's a terrible judge of how complete the team is.

You love Jerry and want to fondle his balls, we get it.

The ironic thing is that the Jerry groupie thinks he is the smartest one in the room...

[DanielVogelbach]

The whole forum says every year how Dipoto stopped a move or two short.

It doesn't take a crystal ball, it takes actually doing what it takes to win. Jerry's a terrible judge of how complete the team is.

You love Jerry and want to fondle his balls, we get it.

The "whole forum" is typical sports fans making typical sports fan comments about a typical GM. That's what I've been pointing out. Y'all don't want to swallow my reality pills. But, I don't want to say it's the whole forum, because only specific posters are passionately waving the "Jerry Sucks" flag.

I've said repeatedly that I don't think Jerry is the end all be all of GMs. But, go ahead and put words in my mouth if you want. My position is simply that if and when they switch GMs, I won't be expecting any monumental shifts in the on-field product. I think all the GMs are pretty much playing the same game with similar approaches.

I think Jerry probably has a very good sense of "how complete the team is". He's not expecting them to dominate. He's hoping to be competitive and with a little luck make a post season run. Y'all have been talking about replacing Polanco's production. Well take a look at his 2024 and 2026 production. He way overperformed in 2025.

"One or two moves short" is a meaningless comment. Do you know how many other teams you could say the same thing about? You make it sound there are no variables. No bidding wars. Unlimited options. Piece of cake to work a lop-sided trade. No payroll restrictions. You might think the team is in a position where they should mortgage the farm a little go trade for another piece, but you have no idea if they tried to do that or not. For all you know they could've been shopping prospects and not gotten any takers. You get onto Jerry for his scrap heap pickups, but that's what every team does. Saying it again, you're just a typical fan making typical fan comments about a typical GM. Have fun with that. I'm out.

[DanielVogelbach]

The ironic thing is that the Jerry groupie thinks he is the smartest one in the room...

I don't give two shits about Jerry Dipoto. I just hear typical sports fans making typical comments about a typical GM. Missing the post season and not winning championships are what teams do, especially in baseball where the fewest teams advance after the regular season concludes, and especially for the teams that aren't able to just spend a bunch of money to gloss over their misses on draft picks and bad trades. Then the fans complain about the manager and the GM. Then the team gets new ones. Rinse and repeat.

For teams like the Mariners everything kind of has to magically click and fall into place for the post season magic to occur. It's always gonna be that way regardless of who the GM is. Same for Rangers, Padres, Twins, Orioles, etc. And, when you look at the last 6 years the Mariners have the 8th best record in all of baseball.

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