30/4 Game Thread Hancock v Anderson

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Re: 30/4 Game Thread Hancock v Anderson

Post by GL_Storm » Thu May 01, 2025 6:06 pm

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Dehart actually is the Yankees director of hitting now, he's not a hitting coach per say, he's supervising all the Yankees hitting coaches through out their system. So maybe the Yankees felt even though he was a horrible hitting coach he'd be good at handling other hitting coaches. Or perhaps the Yankees took into consideration the situation Dehart was working in, the lack of performance wasn't his fault, who knows
Robles credits Dehart with his turnaround.

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Re: 30/4 Game Thread Hancock v Anderson

Post by Donn Beach » Thu May 01, 2025 6:09 pm

. Jarret DeHart: “It’s basically overseeing all of our hitting systems on the player development side. All of our processes, all of our programs. Just making sure that we’re aligned philosophically, moving in the right direction and getting guys ready to perform at the major league
In his words what he is doing now, guess it's more minor league than majors

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Re: 30/4 Game Thread Hancock v Anderson

Post by D-train » Thu May 01, 2025 6:10 pm

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The Seattle Mariners offense 30 games into 2024 vs 2025:

31 HR -> 45 HR
106 RBI -> 144 RBI
93 wRC+ -> 125 wRC+
2.0 fWAR -> 6.2 fWAR
.217 AVG -> .241 AVG
28.7% K Rate -> 22.9% K Rate
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Re: 30/4 Game Thread Hancock v Anderson

Post by bpj » Thu May 01, 2025 8:12 pm

D-train wrote:
Thu May 01, 2025 6:10 pm
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The Seattle Mariners offense 30 games into 2024 vs 2025:

31 HR -> 45 HR
106 RBI -> 144 RBI
93 wRC+ -> 125 wRC+
2.0 fWAR -> 6.2 fWAR
.217 AVG -> .241 AVG
28.7% K Rate -> 22.9% K Rate
My impression of the players the last few years is they were always trying to "draw walks". Like when they renamed their strategy a few different times, things like "control the zone".

This year they're not letting those close strike three's go by. I dont know what their called-strike-three numbers were under Dehart compared to now, but my guess is the players were promised if they "control the zone" and never swing at anything even an inch off the plate, their numbers will reflect it in the end.

Of course, Dehart thought it would be in a positive way. But umpires aren't going to let a team play that game. It might work under robot umps..

If anyone knows where to find Backwards-K% and compare 8/23/2024 (that's August 23rd for the blokes in back) before and after, I'd bet they had a much higher looking-K% before Dehart's firing than they do now.

This team under Edgar attacks the ball, even though they're still a very patient team at the plate.

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Re: 30/4 Game Thread Hancock v Anderson

Post by Captain 97 » Thu May 01, 2025 10:16 pm

bpj wrote:
Thu May 01, 2025 8:12 pm
D-train wrote:
Thu May 01, 2025 6:10 pm
EastCoastM’s🔱
@EastCoastMs_
·
17m
The Seattle Mariners offense 30 games into 2024 vs 2025:

31 HR -> 45 HR
106 RBI -> 144 RBI
93 wRC+ -> 125 wRC+
2.0 fWAR -> 6.2 fWAR
.217 AVG -> .241 AVG
28.7% K Rate -> 22.9% K Rate
My impression of the players the last few years is they were always trying to "draw walks". Like when they renamed their strategy a few different times, things like "control the zone".

This year they're not letting those close strike three's go by. I dont know what their called-strike-three numbers were under Dehart compared to now, but my guess is the players were promised if they "control the zone" and never swing at anything even an inch off the plate, their numbers will reflect it in the end.

Of course, Dehart thought it would be in a positive way. But umpires aren't going to let a team play that game. It might work under robot umps..

If anyone knows where to find Backwards-K% and compare 8/23/2024 (that's August 23rd for the blokes in back) before and after, I'd bet they had a much higher looking-K% before Dehart's firing than they do now.

This team under Edgar attacks the ball, even though they're still a very patient team at the plate.
The Ironic thing is they are now leading all of baseball in Walks. Maybe attacking the ball makes teams nibble more at the edges.

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Re: 30/4 Game Thread Hancock v Anderson

Post by bpj » Thu May 01, 2025 10:29 pm

Captain 97 wrote:
Thu May 01, 2025 10:16 pm
bpj wrote:
Thu May 01, 2025 8:12 pm
D-train wrote:
Thu May 01, 2025 6:10 pm
My impression of the players the last few years is they were always trying to "draw walks". Like when they renamed their strategy a few different times, things like "control the zone".

This year they're not letting those close strike three's go by. I dont know what their called-strike-three numbers were under Dehart compared to now, but my guess is the players were promised if they "control the zone" and never swing at anything even an inch off the plate, their numbers will reflect it in the end.

Of course, Dehart thought it would be in a positive way. But umpires aren't going to let a team play that game. It might work under robot umps..

If anyone knows where to find Backwards-K% and compare 8/23/2024 (that's August 23rd for the blokes in back) before and after, I'd bet they had a much higher looking-K% before Dehart's firing than they do now.

This team under Edgar attacks the ball, even though they're still a very patient team at the plate.
The Ironic thing is they are now leading all of baseball in Walks. Maybe attacking the ball makes teams nibble more at the edges.
That's basically my feeling on it. The best way to draw walks is letting a pitcher know you're going to smash it when they throw it near the zone.

Found some of my old complaints about their pre-Edgar strategy-
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