Seems like you are working really hard to cherry pick some stats. Donovan has a career OPS+ of 117 and JP is at 103. Donovan has been at 114 or above all 4 years in MLB. JP has only been above 114 once in 9 seasons and has 5 years below 100.bpj wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2026 2:02 pmSo at least we'll know who's to blame.Donn Beach wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2026 5:21 amHere, you'll like this, a fan piece on Dave Cameron and what he brings to the Mariners. Seems he was behind creating the Rays interest in Williamson to put together the three way trade
https://sports.mynorthwest.com/mlb/seat ... er/1842560
Probably the worst hire the Mariners ever made. Dave Cameron is like an even more bitchy Shannon Drayer.
As long as people are ok with another JP Crawford, they won't be disappointed with Donovan.
In my opinion, he's been sold to the fans as a bigger piece than that.
If fans were told when Donovan was acquired that he profiles as a JP Crawford-level bat, I think we would've heard collective groans.
But people see that OPS that's 40 points higher than JP's and ignore everything they know about T-Mobile and think it'll just transfer over.
Not this guy. I even expect an initial slump that makes his first year drag, like Jorge Polanco did, and like most players who come to Seattle do.
Again, I hope you guys are right! But I strongly doubt it.
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Guess we'll see how actual stats versus "park-adjusted" stats play out when the park is actually adjusted to T-Mobile.Captain 97 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2026 8:19 pmSeems like you are working really hard to cherry pick some stats. Donovan has a career OPS+ of 117 and JP is at 103. Donovan has been at 114 or above all 4 years in MLB. JP has only been above 114 once in 9 seasons and has 5 years below 100.bpj wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2026 2:02 pmSo at least we'll know who's to blame.Donn Beach wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2026 5:21 amHere, you'll like this, a fan piece on Dave Cameron and what he brings to the Mariners. Seems he was behind creating the Rays interest in Williamson to put together the three way trade
https://sports.mynorthwest.com/mlb/seat ... er/1842560
Probably the worst hire the Mariners ever made. Dave Cameron is like an even more bitchy Shannon Drayer.
As long as people are ok with another JP Crawford, they won't be disappointed with Donovan.
In my opinion, he's been sold to the fans as a bigger piece than that.
If fans were told when Donovan was acquired that he profiles as a JP Crawford-level bat, I think we would've heard collective groans.
But people see that OPS that's 40 points higher than JP's and ignore everything they know about T-Mobile and think it'll just transfer over.
Not this guy. I even expect an initial slump that makes his first year drag, like Jorge Polanco did, and like most players who come to Seattle do.
Again, I hope you guys are right! But I strongly doubt it.
Even Robbie Cano's OPS saw a significant drop after coming to Seattle. Not much chance Donovan is unaffected imo.
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Why would you bring up Dumpster diving and Donovan.Donn Beach wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2026 1:25 amBy all accounts Donovan was sought after. This wasn't Dipoto dumpster diving. I think it should be noted he landed that trade against some competition including the Astros.
"In another sign that the Houston Astros are trying to lessen their infield surplus, the team had serious discussions about a three-way trade in which they would have sent Isaac Paredes to Boston and acquired utilityman Brendan Donovan," Rome and Rosenthal wrote. "Donovan ultimately went from the St. Louis Cardinals to the Astros’ American League West rivals, the Seattle Mariners. The Red Sox, too, were shut out. Not only did they fail to land Paredes in the three-team deal, but a parallel attempt to acquire Donovan also sputtered, people familiar with the conversations said
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funny Donovan had a .720 OPS at home last season and .834 on the Road. JP had a .751 OPS at T Mobile in 2025
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Donovan's bigger issue is hitting lefties than I think T Mobile will be....
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Robles now at .094/.241
Raley 3-4 with a Bomb now at .278/.866 but of course they will platoon them.
The battle for BU catcher is INTENSE!
Garver: .105/.366
Knizner: .125/.359
Whoever gets there OPS over .400 wins!!!! What a fucking joke.
Raley 3-4 with a Bomb now at .278/.866 but of course they will platoon them.
The battle for BU catcher is INTENSE!
Garver: .105/.366
Knizner: .125/.359
Whoever gets there OPS over .400 wins!!!! What a fucking joke.
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