Kade vs. Sloan

[Sibelius Hindemith]

Colt says he's getting stronger

Daniel Kramer
@DKramer_

Colt Emerson is flashing all five tools, but it’s the power that’s really emerged -- and perhaps a little unforeseen.

“Growing up, my thing was gap-to-gap and hit doubles … What’s happening now is I’m starting to get stronger.”

Have to hope he gets the avg and walk rate up because he probably won't maintain a 50+ HR pace going forward.

[Donn Beach]

From an article speculating call-ups schedules.

This is the more complicated projection. There are plenty of people who believe Ryan Sloan has an even higher ceiling than Anderson, and that’s not hard to understand. He has a nasty fastball, and if the changeup continues to grow into the kind of secondary weapon many suspect, we can start tossing around King Felix-level dreams. Okay, that is a massive comparison. But seriously, Sloan’s ceiling might be that loud.

He is supposed to be developing a nasty changeup. That was what Felix relied on... interesting

Seattle Mariners pitching prospect Ryan Sloan features a highly-rated, hard-fading "kick" changeup that generally sits in the mid-80s. Evaluators grade it as an "above major league average" pitch (around a 60 grade), relying on its significant vertical break, sink, and horizontal movement to induce swings and misses

[D-train]

A nasty fastball. lol Oh and he has a changeup??? Wow! So has been Kade been basically unhittable without a change up???

The only thing that has the nerds projecting Sloan as better is his size and higher fastball velo. Just typical lazy sheep analysis....

[Donn Beach]

Anderson isn't an overpowering pitcher, he's dominating with control. I think it's interesting that he seems to fit this model the mariners have promoted with Gilbert and Kirby. Guys that pound the strike zone. Anderson is great but I don't know if he's going to dominate the majors the way he's doing it at AA. I think he could run into some of the same issues as those guys being in the strike zone the way they are. For as good as Anderson seems to be, could Sloan actually be a more dominate ML pitcher? To me that's a good thing. I don't see the down side to imagining that

[Sibelius Hindemith]

How did Hancock and Miller project going into the draft in comparison to Gilbert and Kirby. Because they look like the better pitchers now.

[D-train]

How did Hancock and Miller project going into the draft in comparison to Gilbert and Kirby. Because they look like the better pitchers now.

Hancock was the 6th overall pick and Miller was a 4th rounder. Gilbert and Kirby were both mid 1st rounders....

[D-train]

Anderson isn't an overpowering pitcher, he's dominating with control. I think it's interesting that he seems to fit this model the mariners have promoted with Gilbert and Kirby. Guys that pound the strike zone. Anderson is great but I don't know if he's going to dominate the majors the way he's doing it at AA. I think he could run into some of the same issues as those guys being in the strike zone the way they are. For as good as Anderson seems to be, could Sloan actually be a more dominate ML pitcher? To me that's a good thing. I don't see the down side to imagining that

Yeah I don't think any think anyone thinks Anderson will have an ERA barely over 1 vs. big league hitters. So you have a lot of company there. lol

Sloan needs to dominate AA hitters before projecting him to dominate big league hitters. And he has done that in 2 of his past 3 starts so looking a lot better but nowhere near what Kade has done.

[Donn Beach]

Anderson isn't an overpowering pitcher, he's dominating with control. I think it's interesting that he seems to fit this model the mariners have promoted with Gilbert and Kirby. Guys that pound the strike zone. Anderson is great but I don't know if he's going to dominate the majors the way he's doing it at AA. I think he could run into some of the same issues as those guys being in the strike zone the way they are. For as good as Anderson seems to be, could Sloan actually be a more dominate ML pitcher? To me that's a good thing. I don't see the down side to imagining that

Yeah I don't think any think anyone thinks Anderson will have an ERA barely over 1 vs. big league hitters. So you have a lot of company there. lol

Sloan needs to dominate AA hitters before projecting him to dominate big league hitters. And he has done that in 2 of his past 3 starts so looking a lot better but nowhere near what Kade has done.

That's the disagreement. You want to see results in AA that you can extrapolate to ML results. I don't think development has to work like that. i have no idea if Sloan should be rated higher or lower at this point or do i really care. That he could have tools that can be projected as being more dominate than Anderson but not yet as developed, or even developed in the minors I think is quite possible.

[GL_Storm]

A nasty fastball. lol Oh and he has a changeup??? Wow! So has been Kade been basically unhittable without a change up???

The only thing that has the nerds projecting Sloan as better is his size and higher fastball velo. Just typical lazy sheep analysis....

This is completely untrue. It's his age, size, the quality of stuff in his pitches, and the command of his pitches.

[DavidGee24]

A nasty fastball. lol Oh and he has a changeup??? Wow! So has been Kade been basically unhittable without a change up???

The only thing that has the nerds projecting Sloan as better is his size and higher fastball velo. Just typical lazy sheep analysis....

This is completely untrue. It's his age, size, the quality of stuff in his pitches, and the command of his pitches.

To slightly alter a phrase from Moneyball, "If he's such a good pitcher, then why doesn't he pitch good?"

I'm sure Sloan will get it together and hopefully not end up being another Gil Meche or Taijuan Walker, but projecting him over Anderson is insane considering that he's presently not even an average AA pitcher and Anderson is probably the best pitcher in minor league baseball.