5/5 GT Miller vs Severino

[Seattle or Bust]

I think Miller is going down here pretty soon this season. Last night wasn't disastrous, but his velocity was down and his command was off. He threw seven different pitch types last night, which tells me that he an Cal were sort of working their way through his repertoire, trying to find something that would work.

If it's just soreness, maybe they can just shut him down for a few starts.

Velo was down? He was a consistent 95-97 the first couple innings.

He seemingly started throwing more sinkers to locate.

His 4-seam velocity averaged 94.6 for the game. If you go through each matchup on Baseball Savant, you can see his velocity ticking downward each inning.

Seeing as he threw 25 pitches an inning… ya, it’s not surprising his velo went down. He was struggling with command.

Did you not watch it?

[GL_Storm]

Velo was down? He was a consistent 95-97 the first couple innings.

He seemingly started throwing more sinkers to locate.

His 4-seam velocity averaged 94.6 for the game. If you go through each matchup on Baseball Savant, you can see his velocity ticking downward each inning.

Seeing as he threw 25 pitches an inning… ya, it’s not surprising his velo went down. He was struggling with command.

Did you not watch it?

I watched the first 3 innings and then I had something else to do.

[D-train]

Miller's just not very good outside of T-Mobile.

2024:
Home ERA: 1.96
Away: 4.07

2025:
Home: 2.30
Away: 5.68

They should really be examining why his game works so well in Seattle though. He's obviously got something figured out there.

Guessing he has Seattle Teriyaki before every start. Teriyaki everywhere else completely sucks.

[Millikin]

Miller's just not very good outside of T-Mobile.

2024:
Home ERA: 1.96
Away: 4.07

2025:
Home: 2.30
Away: 5.68

They should really be examining why his game works so well in Seattle though. He's obviously got something figured out there.

Guessing he has Seattle Teriyaki before every start. Teriyaki everywhere else completely sucks.

It's because nobody but western Washington Koreans know how to make it. I've had teriyaki in real Japanese restaurants all over the place and nobody has it figured out like Korean-owned western WA teriyaki joints.

Added bonus: Nary a stray dog or cat within 5 miles of a teriyaki place.

[bpj]

Miller's just not very good outside of T-Mobile.

2024:
Home ERA: 1.96
Away: 4.07

2025:
Home: 2.30
Away: 5.68

They should really be examining why his game works so well in Seattle though. He's obviously got something figured out there.

Guessing he has Seattle Teriyaki before every start. Teriyaki everywhere else completely sucks.

That's as good of a guess as I could throw out there!

Hope your retirement victory lap is starting off great!

[Donn Beach]

Miller's just not very good outside of T-Mobile.

2024:
Home ERA: 1.96
Away: 4.07

2025:
Home: 2.30
Away: 5.68

They should really be examining why his game works so well in Seattle though. He's obviously got something figured out there.

Guessing he has Seattle Teriyaki before every start. Teriyaki everywhere else completely sucks.

It's because nobody but western Washington Koreans know how to make it. I've had teriyaki in real Japanese restaurants all over the place and nobody has it figured out like Korean-owned western WA teriyaki joints.

Added bonus: Nary a stray dog or cat within 5 miles of a teriyaki place.

It's Toshi Kasahara isn't it, it's his recipe from the original toshi's teriyaki, what's become Seattle style teriyaki

[Donn Beach]

No, he actually hasn't. He has one double and a home run off of a position player. He only gets the occasional single in non-clutch situations. But you just can't help yourself.

Actually it's you that can't seem to help yourself. .282/ .462 /.385/ .846. That's what Garver has been hitting the last 30 days. The last 15 days it's .318/ .483/ .500 /.983, so the trajectory is improvement. I don't know how many position players it took pitching to him for him to accomplish it, but for me I see the possibility his bat could be coming around. At the very least, it doesn't scream, cut the guy.

And aside from that, if you did cut him you're giving up a decent backup catcher who's hitting .231/ .394/ .308 /.702 on the season, I'd take that from a backup catcher, so not only are you stuck continuing to pay Garver, his salary, now you have to find another catcher and pay them too. Sorry bro, i really don't see cutting Garver as making a lot of sense

Those numbers don't mean squat, they're inflated by 1) singles he's hit with two outs and nobody on in games that had been already decided; 2) an inordinate number of walks including two that came on pitches that were clearly strike three; and 3) a home run that he hit off of a position player that really inflated those numbers.

Whenever he does come up in a clutch situation he fails, like in his last AB in the Ranger series when he got a meatball right down the middle and grounded into a routine DP.

What...did you actually think that I wouldn't be ready for that?

Only singles, okay, lots of walks, thats a good thing, that's what you want to see if a bat is coming around. You know OBP is considered more valuable than slugging. So let's say you have a player that possibly is hitting singles, getting on base at a good rate, and fills the need for a backup catcher, that player is providing value. I am just curious the reason for cutting him, what's gained exactly?

[DavidGee24]

Only singles, okay, lots of walks, thats a good thing, that's what you want to see if a bat is coming around. You know OBP is considered more valuable than slugging. So let's say you have a player that possibly is hitting singles, getting on base at a good rate, and fills the need for a backup catcher, that player is providing value. I am just curious the reason for cutting him, what's gained exactly?

He has an OPS of .629. He has a WAR of 0.0. He's being paid 12 million dollars per season to put up an .800 OPS and what would over a full season be a 3-4 WAR and he's not even coming remotely close to doing so.

"Fills the need for a backup catcher". Like SOB likes to say, the argument is between A and B, and you're arguing C. This is why you've badly lost every argument you've ever had here with me.

[D-train]

Not to mention Ford is on fire right now and has a 851 OPS

[Donn Beach]

Only singles, okay, lots of walks, thats a good thing, that's what you want to see if a bat is coming around. You know OBP is considered more valuable than slugging. So let's say you have a player that possibly is hitting singles, getting on base at a good rate, and fills the need for a backup catcher, that player is providing value. I am just curious the reason for cutting him, what's gained exactly?

He has an OPS of .629. He has a WAR of 0.0. He's being paid 12 million dollars per season to put up an .800 OPS and what would over a full season be a 3-4 WAR and he's not even coming remotely close to doing so.

"Fills the need for a backup catcher". Like SOB likes to say, the argument is between A and B, and you're arguing C. This is why you've badly lost every argument you've ever had here with me.

Its not C, his salary is a sunk cost, cutting him doesn't mitigate it. You still haven't explained to me how the team benefits from cutting him. You can hate on him endlessly, that's fine but the post I responded to was about actually cutting him. Replacing him with Ford doesn't make sense. I don't care how on fire he is, you don't want him playing occasionally as a backup catcher. That leaves having to invest more money in another backup catcher to replace Garver who is in fact a reasonable backup catcher to begin with. I'm not interested in hearing about what a shitty overpaid player Garver is, I already know that. Explain the actual benefit incurred by cutting him. I don't see it