OFFICIAL: 2023-2024 Offseason & Free Agency Thread

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Re: OFFICIAL: 2023-2024 Offseason & Free Agency Thread

Post by D-train » Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:55 pm

Let's think about it terms of something we do know about it. Let saying I made homemade Teddy Bears and sold them on some website.

I agreed to sell them to the site for $20 each and the web site agree to sell them for $30.

Everything was going great and they sold 100 the first month. But then they decided to raise the price to $40 but still only pay you $20. Of course at higher price sales went down to 70 units the next month. They actually made more money but you made less money. Why would you agree to that?

The supplier needs to be have control of the price that the end user is charged or get a % of the revenues or the middle men are able to act in ways that damage the supplier while enriching themselves.

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Re: OFFICIAL: 2023-2024 Offseason & Free Agency Thread

Post by GL_Storm » Wed Dec 06, 2023 10:58 pm

D-train wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:55 pm
Let's think about it terms of something we do know about it. Let saying I made homemade Teddy Bears and sold them on some website.

I agreed to sell them to the site for $20 each and the web site agree to sell them for $30.

Everything was going great and they sold 100 the first month. But then they decided to raise the price to $40 but still only pay you $20. Of course at higher price sales went down to 70 units the next month. They actually made more money but you made less money. Why would you agree to that?

The supplier needs to be have control of the price that the end user is charged or get a % of the revenues or the middle men are able to act in ways that damage the supplier while enriching themselves.

UW BA Economics 1990 :)
It's possible that something like that exists in the contract. We don't really know. But it's conceivable that if the per household carriage fee is X at the current tier ( Popular TV"), that it automatically goes up to X + Y at the higher tier ("Ultimate TV"). But the Mariners are obviously in panic mode so whatever they're seeing in the numbers must be pretty bad, regardless of any increase in the carriage fee.

By the way, on a side note, I was curious about Comcast as a business and what kind of margins they're running, and holy shit those guys are printing right now! I'm going to dig in and see what's going on there because net income has basically tripled in the last year.

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Re: OFFICIAL: 2023-2024 Offseason & Free Agency Thread

Post by desbcoach » Thu Dec 07, 2023 3:29 am

GL_Storm wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2023 10:58 pm
D-train wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:55 pm
Let's think about it terms of something we do know about it. Let saying I made homemade Teddy Bears and sold them on some website.

I agreed to sell them to the site for $20 each and the web site agree to sell them for $30.

Everything was going great and they sold 100 the first month. But then they decided to raise the price to $40 but still only pay you $20. Of course at higher price sales went down to 70 units the next month. They actually made more money but you made less money. Why would you agree to that?

The supplier needs to be have control of the price that the end user is charged or get a % of the revenues or the middle men are able to act in ways that damage the supplier while enriching themselves.

UW BA Economics 1990 :)
It's possible that something like that exists in the contract. We don't really know. But it's conceivable that if the per household carriage fee is X at the current tier ( Popular TV"), that it automatically goes up to X + Y at the higher tier ("Ultimate TV"). But the Mariners are obviously in panic mode so whatever they're seeing in the numbers must be pretty bad, regardless of any increase in the carriage fee.

By the way, on a side note, I was curious about Comcast as a business and what kind of margins they're running, and holy shit those guys are printing right now! I'm going to dig in and see what's going on there because net income has basically tripled in the last year.
Look at their internet supplies would be my guess

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Re: OFFICIAL: 2023-2024 Offseason & Free Agency Thread

Post by Pharmabro » Thu Dec 07, 2023 3:45 am

GL_Storm wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2023 10:58 pm
D-train wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:55 pm
Let's think about it terms of something we do know about it. Let saying I made homemade Teddy Bears and sold them on some website.

I agreed to sell them to the site for $20 each and the web site agree to sell them for $30.

Everything was going great and they sold 100 the first month. But then they decided to raise the price to $40 but still only pay you $20. Of course at higher price sales went down to 70 units the next month. They actually made more money but you made less money. Why would you agree to that?

The supplier needs to be have control of the price that the end user is charged or get a % of the revenues or the middle men are able to act in ways that damage the supplier while enriching themselves.

UW BA Economics 1990 :)
It's possible that something like that exists in the contract. We don't really know. But it's conceivable that if the per household carriage fee is X at the current tier ( Popular TV"), that it automatically goes up to X + Y at the higher tier ("Ultimate TV"). But the Mariners are obviously in panic mode so whatever they're seeing in the numbers must be pretty bad, regardless of any increase in the carriage fee.

By the way, on a side note, I was curious about Comcast as a business and what kind of margins they're running, and holy shit those guys are printing right now! I'm going to dig in and see what's going on there because net income has basically tripled in the last year.
A lot of kids wonder into the love of a sport because they stayed home "sick" from church, or otherwise picked up the remote and heard the roar of the crowd as John Madden took them back to Boop the LT curls around and takes out the 2nd level and Bo Jackson is off to the races. By going up to the highest tier they are not going to get exposure to the common potential fan. Bar owners have talked to me about how much they have to pay for X-Y, and Z sports franchises and it is even more than homeowners. The truth has been revealed this franchise is a joke and MLB should force out Jerk-off John Stanton this is a profit motivated spiral of diminishing return and FFS I can't figure out why.

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Re: OFFICIAL: 2023-2024 Offseason & Free Agency Thread

Post by ice99 » Thu Dec 07, 2023 3:56 am

In 2022, Forbes had the M's at making $87M. For 2023, I'd expect an increase to maybe $100M. For 2024, it's hard to see the Comcast deal costing them a quarter of that. Cot's shows the 2023 Opening Day 26 man payroll was $137M. Per Cot's the 2024 26 man payroll currently stands at $113M. It seems to me that they could kick the payroll up to $150M-$170M. Anyway, the Rangers and the Astros seem like they're going to improve.

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Re: OFFICIAL: 2023-2024 Offseason & Free Agency Thread

Post by bpj » Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:53 am

I was wrong and severely undervalued the market for Eduardo Rodriguez, looks like he made a great decision opting out and betting on himself

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Post by ice99 » Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:25 am

bpj wrote:
Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:53 am
I was wrong and severely undervalued the market for Eduardo Rodriguez, looks like he made a great decision opting out and betting on himself
Thanks, but the more important part is that I was right, lol.

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Re: OFFICIAL: 2023-2024 Offseason & Free Agency Thread

Post by bpj » Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:27 am

ice99 wrote:
Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:25 am
bpj wrote:
Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:53 am
I was wrong and severely undervalued the market for Eduardo Rodriguez, looks like he made a great decision opting out and betting on himself
Thanks, but the more important part is that I was right, lol.
You definitely were

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Re: OFFICIAL: 2023-2024 Offseason & Free Agency Thread

Post by Muri » Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:31 am

Soto to the Yankees?

Screw it... I'm gonna be a Yankees fan until Mariners change owners or start putting their fucking money where their mouth is. Spending when needed after some saving/rebuilding. The last two years show they are completely full of shit. 1 playoff berth in 22 years ain't gonna cut it.

I was a young kid when I first started watching baseball in the early 90's. Fell in love with Griffey, Edgar, Bone and Randy Johnsen. But I've had enough.

Go Yanks.

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Re: OFFICIAL: 2023-2024 Offseason & Free Agency Thread

Post by tehmc » Thu Dec 07, 2023 8:02 am

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/12/ ... lario.html

This one confuses me, they already have too many infielders on the roster including 2 3B (Noelvi Marte and Spencer Steer)

I'd be ok with a SP trade to the Reds that nets us Marte and others back

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