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[bpj]

In other words you couldn't see the potential because some bums were in the way.

Dipoto was throwing spaghetti at the wall for a few spots- that's why we needed the upgrades to begin with.

We were always anticipating impactful callups, some of you loved Kelenic for that, but it was always coming whether your revisionist history allows you to admit it or not.

Dtrain laid out a fine case for where the team was at and you proceeded to project in the 70's for wins, it's ok to admit that you made a terrible projection because you thought they'd keep terrible performers out there all year without swapping them out apparently.

Some guys overperform. Some guys underperform.

That's why team projections are more accurate than individual projections.

[IStillLoveTheMs]

In other words you couldn't see the potential because some bums were in the way.

Dipoto was throwing spaghetti at the wall for a few spots- that's why we needed the upgrades to begin with.

We were always anticipating impactful callups, some of you loved Kelenic for that, but it was always coming whether your revisionist history allows you to admit it or not.

Dtrain laid out a fine case for where the team was at and you proceeded to project in the 70's for wins, it's ok to admit that you made a terrible projection because you thought they'd keep terrible performers out there all year without swapping them out apparently.

Some guys overperform. Some guys underperform.

That's why team projections are more accurate than individual projections.

"my revisionist history" lol -- half the players DT has on there aren't even on the current f'n roster we're fielding. You can't revise any more than that.

Imagine beating your chest because Paul Sewald, JT Chargois and Drew Steckenrider have literally saved this ball club and made us a competitive team... "Throwing spaghetti" isn't a very traditional way to field a winning ballclub... is it? And his throwing spaghetti only worked because multiple players got hurt.

You said it yourself that Jerry has been saved by Graveman like he was saved by Edwin Diaz once before.

Kelenic has the chance to be a very impactful call up for the 2nd half of the season... were you here before the season saying Fraley was going to put the WAR he has?

Bottom line is the roster you projected winning 80 or so games (I don't know how many you predicted, I don't really care) isn't anywhere close to the roster we have now.

What we have now is a significantly better roster and it's one that quite literally nobody would have guessed or lucked into projecting.

I'll say it again, if Newsome, Marge and Sadler don't get hurt... this team's record isn't 6 games over .500...

[bpj]

That's the spaghetti factor. Those players are interchangeable. A reliever sucks, a reliever steps up. Lewis goes down, a Kelenic or Fraley steps up, that's how this works.

Some will overperform, some underperform.

Your projection had all underperforming when it was always about the 40 man roster + any fresh spaghetti Dipoto tossed.

It's ok that you couldn't see the team's potential. You're a, "the glass is half empty so **** it," kind of guy.

Add up all the wins from guys that weren't on the 40 man roster and let me know how it turns out.

[IStillLoveTheMs]

That's the spaghetti factor. Those players are interchangeable. Lewis goes down, a Kelenic or Fraley steps up, that's how this works.

Some will overperform, some underperform.

Your projection had all underperforming when it was always about the 40 man roster + any fresh spaghetti Dipoto tossed.

It's ok that you couldn't see the team's potential. You're a, "the glass is half empty so **** it," kind of guy.

Lol good lord. You threw a dart at a pig's ass and are gloating because that pig darted in 25 different directions and the dart happened to land on the 26th pass.

Yeah bro... you predicted Kyle Lewis, the fucking ROY, would get hurt and Jake Fraley would come up and play to the same level. The same Jake Fraley half the forum was begging to be DFA'd and said he had no trade value when I proposed trades w. his name in them this off season.

You predicted that Chargois, Sewald and Steckenrider who weren't even slotted as pitchers (because nobody thought they were good) on the opening 25 man would come up and all be all-star level relievers after replacing 3 horrible bullpen arms who by the grace of God that Jerry Dipoto thanks every night got hurt.

No, you didn't...

[bpj]

That's the spaghetti factor. Those players are interchangeable. Lewis goes down, a Kelenic or Fraley steps up, that's how this works.

Some will overperform, some underperform.

Your projection had all underperforming when it was always about the 40 man roster + any fresh spaghetti Dipoto tossed.

It's ok that you couldn't see the team's potential. You're a, "the glass is half empty so **** it," kind of guy.

Lol good lord. You threw a dart at a pig's ass and are gloating because that pig darted in 25 different directions and the dart happened to land on the 26th pass.

Yeah bro... you predicted Kyle Lewis, the fucking ROY, would get hurt and Jake Fraley would come up and play to the same level. The same Jake Fraley half the forum was begging to be DFA'd and said he had no trade value when I proposed trades w. his name in them this off season.

You predicted that Chargois, Sewald and Steckenrider who weren't even slotted as pitchers (because nobody thought they were good) on the opening 25 man would come up and all be all-star level relievers after replacing 3 horrible bullpen arms who by the grace of God that Jerry Dipoto thanks every night got hurt.

No, you didn't...

Add up all the wins from guys that weren't on the 40 man roster and let me know how it turns out.

I predicted 86 wins. My dart at a pigs ass was because I believed in the roster, just like your prediction of 70-something wins was because you didnt.

[IStillLoveTheMs]

That's the spaghetti factor. Those players are interchangeable. Lewis goes down, a Kelenic or Fraley steps up, that's how this works.

Some will overperform, some underperform.

Your projection had all underperforming when it was always about the 40 man roster + any fresh spaghetti Dipoto tossed.

It's ok that you couldn't see the team's potential. You're a, "the glass is half empty so **** it," kind of guy.

Lol good lord. You threw a dart at a pig's ass and are gloating because that pig darted in 25 different directions and the dart happened to land on the 26th pass.

Yeah bro... you predicted Kyle Lewis, the fucking ROY, would get hurt and Jake Fraley would come up and play to the same level. The same Jake Fraley half the forum was begging to be DFA'd and said he had no trade value when I proposed trades w. his name in them this off season.

You predicted that Chargois, Sewald and Steckenrider who weren't even slotted as pitchers (because nobody thought they were good) on the opening 25 man would come up and all be all-star level relievers after replacing 3 horrible bullpen arms who by the grace of God that Jerry Dipoto thanks every night got hurt.

No, you didn't...

Add up all the wins from guys that weren't on the 40 man roster and let me know how it turns out.

I predicted 86 wins. My dart at a pigs ass was because I believed in the roster, just like your prediction of 70-something wins was because you didnt.

Yeah whatever dude... you literally just posted the projected roster that I, and many others made their prediction off of.

You think traditionally good teams look at their 40 man as the reason they contend for a playoff spot?

No, they hope like hell they never have to go to those other players because they selected the main 25 for a reason and will maybe have to go to 2-3 extra guys over the course of the season. Not 15+.

2021 has been a 4-leaf clover up Jerry Dipoto's ass and I'm happy as hell that it's been that way. Which is why, after a ton of fucking luck, I'm happy to say I'm at a spot where I'm OK with them going for it.

You show me the roster the M's fielded on 4/1/2021? No way in fucking hell.

[bpj]

You predicted 70 wins

Why do you even keep talking?

Teams don't worry about the 23-26th spots like they're going to cost them the playoffs, that's who they've been rotating out. Say it with me, "SPUUUGGHHEEETTII"

[IStillLoveTheMs]

You predicted 70 wins

Why do you even keep talking?

Teams don't worry about the 23-26th spots like they're going to cost them the playoffs, that's who they've been rotating out.

Yeah man troll away.

You're always just so fucking tiring to consult with.

You're always just going to stick to your retarded anti-logic that you think proves you right... the M's that are going to achieve 80+ wins aren't the M's you predicted would do so.

You probably didn't even know who Paul Sewald, JT Chargois and Drew Steckenrider were before the season started.

[bpj]

"Yuh, whatever man..."

You got busted up, as usual. Sorry you can't just own up to just being flat out wrong, it would really save you a lot of embarrassment.

It's tiring to "consult" with me () because I don't roll over and act like you're right.

[IStillLoveTheMs]

"Yuh, whatever man..."

You got busted up, as usual. Sorry you can't just own up to just being flat out wrong, it would really save you a lot of embarrassment.

It's tiring to "consult" with me () because I don't roll over and act like you're right.

You're not right. And I'm not going to roll over pretending that your moronic gloating has any merit.

Anyone with a brain knows that this current M's roster is significantly different than the one ANYONE figured the M's would roll with in 2021.

Show me a point in time where you predicted the M's should not only call up but that they would be successful w. ANY of the 3 relievers: Sewald, Steckenrider and Chargois. Show me a post where you were even a little bit excited that they were called up or that Jerry signed them in the off season.

Show me a post where you predicted Jake Fraley would replace Kyle Lewis and play to the tune of 1.2 WAR... show me a post that ever said you were high on his prospects before he was re-called on May 31st.

Show me any post of yours that predicted the current crop of players who weren't anticipated to be Mariners this season were going to contribute to the level they have and I'll buy the steaming pile of shit you're always trying to sell.

Until then, shut the fuck up.

Funny... why don't you bring up just how wrong you were about Marm through his first 31 games... oh right, it doesn't fit your stupid narrative.