Sunday GT: Let's end these streaks. We shall fight Sandy on the bleachers

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Re: Sunday GT: Let's end these streaks. We shall fight Sandy on the bleachers

Post by D-train » Sun May 01, 2022 6:22 pm

Millikin wrote:
Sun May 01, 2022 6:06 pm
Julio: Exciting rookie, but still a rookie.
Now hitting 71 points higher than JK who is a 2nd year player 2.5 years older than him.
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Re: Sunday GT: Let's end these streaks. We shall fight Sandy on the bleachers

Post by Millikin » Sun May 01, 2022 6:23 pm

Wtf were you doing Frazier
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Re: Sunday GT: Let's end these streaks. We shall fight Sandy on the bleachers

Post by D-train » Sun May 01, 2022 6:23 pm

bpj wrote:
Sun May 01, 2022 6:06 pm
Pickoffs should be counted as caught stealing so speedsters aren't given extra credit on ther SB/CS counts.
They are.
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Re: Sunday GT: Let's end these streaks. We shall fight Sandy on the bleachers

Post by Millikin » Sun May 01, 2022 6:25 pm

D-train wrote:
Sun May 01, 2022 6:23 pm
bpj wrote:
Sun May 01, 2022 6:06 pm
Pickoffs should be counted as caught stealing so speedsters aren't given extra credit on ther SB/CS counts.
They are.
The box score I'm looking at for this game shows a CS for Frazier but not for Julio.
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Re: Sunday GT: Let's end these streaks. We shall fight Sandy on the bleachers

Post by harmony » Sun May 01, 2022 6:26 pm

D-train wrote:
Sun May 01, 2022 6:22 pm
Millikin wrote:
Sun May 01, 2022 6:06 pm
Julio: Exciting rookie, but still a rookie.
Now hitting 71 points higher than JK who is a 2nd year player 2.5 years older than him.
Jarred Kelenic is one-and-a-half years older than Julio Rodriguez:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/play ... ja01.shtml

https://www.baseball-reference.com/play ... ju01.shtml

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Re: Sunday GT: Let's end these streaks. We shall fight Sandy on the bleachers

Post by Millikin » Sun May 01, 2022 6:28 pm

Who cares how old they are. They're young. One is clearly better than the other.
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Re: Sunday GT: Let's end these streaks. We shall fight Sandy on the bleachers

Post by MarinerMike » Sun May 01, 2022 6:28 pm

XpertDBA wrote:
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I don't understand why left, left, right would be a BAD thing.

Aren't 80% of the pitchers right handed? So a left-left start would seem to be optimal wouldn't it?
That’s a good point. I’m not sure, maybe you’d be a more optimal team to have an LH “opener” start against lol. Is that still a thing?

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Re: Sunday GT: Let's end these streaks. We shall fight Sandy on the bleachers

Post by D-train » Sun May 01, 2022 6:29 pm

XpertDBA wrote:
Sun May 01, 2022 6:15 pm
Wouldn't the natural top 3 in the order be, Frazier, JP (or flip flop) and then France....?

What is the logic of a guy like France being #2 if there's nobody scary behind to drive them in?

Scott is an idiot.
Even Frazier has been a bust so far hitting .235 with an OBP barely over .300. ZERO power.
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Re: Sunday GT: Let's end these streaks. We shall fight Sandy on the bleachers

Post by bpj » Sun May 01, 2022 6:29 pm

Millikin wrote:
Sun May 01, 2022 6:25 pm
D-train wrote:
Sun May 01, 2022 6:23 pm
bpj wrote:
Sun May 01, 2022 6:06 pm
Pickoffs should be counted as caught stealing so speedsters aren't given extra credit on ther SB/CS counts.
They are.
The box score I'm looking at for this game shows a CS for Frazier but not for Julio.
Yeah, I dont think they are counted as CS, and you can't sort for picked offs on fangraphs to see how many they had either. Its like a forgotten component even though base stealers are picked off at a much higher rate than Ty Frances are.

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Re: Sunday GT: Let's end these streaks. We shall fight Sandy on the bleachers

Post by D-train » Sun May 01, 2022 6:33 pm

bpj wrote:
Sun May 01, 2022 6:29 pm
Millikin wrote:
Sun May 01, 2022 6:25 pm
D-train wrote:
Sun May 01, 2022 6:23 pm


They are.
The box score I'm looking at for this game shows a CS for Frazier but not for Julio.
Yeah, I dont think they are counted as CS, and you can't sort for picked offs on fangraphs to see how many they had either. Its like a forgotten component even though base stealers are picked off at a much higher rate than Ty Frances are.
Was Julio picked off diving back to first or was there a throw to first and he got caught at second. Maybe that's the difference. I though all instances of guys getting thrown out without batted balls were CSs though.
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