Morosi agrees that Nimmo is a pretty good option

[D-train]

I'd love to trade JP.

Unfortunately Dipoto handed him a contract that basically turned him into Chone Figgins.

Like it's not really a problem, but it's kiiiind of a problem.

I don't think Dipoto is ready or willing to give up on JP, but would love to be wrong.

Here is a wild one.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fm8V46BfynM

I don't think Moncada is as focused on baseball as he should be.

Jesus, hard knock life. lol Yep, set for life. Doubt he is too depressed right now.....

[Seattle or Bust]

According to a contributor to a White Sox chat Thursday at MLB Trade Rumors: " Tim Anderson is a horrible defender and a terrible baserunner."

https://www.jotcast.com/chat/white-sox- ... 14225.html

According to MLBTR founder Tim Dierkes in the same chat: "Tim Anderson can be controlled through 2024, though I see from some of the chat comments that some White Sox fans want him traded."

FWIW

According to Fangraphs, Tim Anderson was a slightly better defender than JP Crawford in 2022. They were =/= in 2021.

Anderson had 13 stolen bases in 2022 and was caught stealing 0 times. He had 18 stolen bases in 2021 and was caught 7 times. JP has 6 total stolen bases the last 2 years and has been caught 8 times.

JP was in the bottom 62% percentile for sprint speed. Anderson was in the top 24% for sprint speed.

I'm curious why you all of a sudden you went from referring to stats to some moron who is emotional when it comes to Tim Anderson? This is unbecoming of you.

Avoid reliance on single sources of information.

https://www.marinertalk.com/viewtopic.p ... on#p212293

FWIW

I don't see the point you're making.

You literally just did that in reference to Anderson's defense and base running.

You posted, "this guy said this about Anderson's base running and defense," without actually confirming whether that was true.

Seems to be untrue... Anderson in fact, seems to be about avg defensively and above avg base running, at least when it comes to base stealing and pure speed. As for the art of base running, that's a tough stat to track.

FWIW... JP was statistically among the bottom 3 SS's in the league from May 1 forward... something you have never and will never admit. Which is why you posted some stupid article about him being a good guy in the post you just linked me.

[harmony]

According to Fangraphs, Tim Anderson was a slightly better defender than JP Crawford in 2022. They were =/= in 2021.

Anderson had 13 stolen bases in 2022 and was caught stealing 0 times. He had 18 stolen bases in 2021 and was caught 7 times. JP has 6 total stolen bases the last 2 years and has been caught 8 times.

JP was in the bottom 62% percentile for sprint speed. Anderson was in the top 24% for sprint speed.

I'm curious why you all of a sudden you went from referring to stats to some moron who is emotional when it comes to Tim Anderson? This is unbecoming of you.

Avoid reliance on single sources of information.

https://www.marinertalk.com/viewtopic.p ... on#p212293

FWIW

I don't see the point you're making.

You literally just did that in reference to Anderson's defense and base running.

You posted, "this guy said this about Anderson's base running and defense," without actually confirming whether that was true.

Seems to be untrue... Anderson in fact, seems to be about avg defensively and above avg base running, at least when it comes to base stealing and pure speed. As for the art of base running, that's a tough stat to track.

FWIW... JP was statistically among the bottom 3 SS's in the league from May 1 forward... something you have never and will never admit. Which is why you posted some stupid article about him being a good guy in the post you just linked me.

An opinion was added to supplement the statistics previously provided (and just linked).

Wide-ranging opinions are welcome. Keep 'em coming.

[ice99]

I'd love to trade JP.

Unfortunately Dipoto handed him a contract that basically turned him into Chone Figgins.

Like it's not really a problem, but it's kiiiind of a problem.

I don't think Dipoto is ready or willing to give up on JP, but would love to be wrong.

Meh, I can see JP getting about 3 fWAR next year. Fangraphs changed the components that went into their def stat.

[Seattle or Bust]

Avoid reliance on single sources of information.

https://www.marinertalk.com/viewtopic.p ... on#p212293

FWIW

I don't see the point you're making.

You literally just did that in reference to Anderson's defense and base running.

You posted, "this guy said this about Anderson's base running and defense," without actually confirming whether that was true.

Seems to be untrue... Anderson in fact, seems to be about avg defensively and above avg base running, at least when it comes to base stealing and pure speed. As for the art of base running, that's a tough stat to track.

FWIW... JP was statistically among the bottom 3 SS's in the league from May 1 forward... something you have never and will never admit. Which is why you posted some stupid article about him being a good guy in the post you just linked me.

An opinion was added to supplement the statistics previously provided (and just linked).

Wide-ranging opinions are welcome. Keep 'em coming.

You posted a quote from an emotional WS fan about Anderson's defense and base running. That isn't even a source

You provided no statistics to back that up in the post you linked where we discussed this before. You referenced his WAR and injury history... has nothing to do with his D or base running.

[harmony]

I don't see the point you're making.

You literally just did that in reference to Anderson's defense and base running.

You posted, "this guy said this about Anderson's base running and defense," without actually confirming whether that was true.

Seems to be untrue... Anderson in fact, seems to be about avg defensively and above avg base running, at least when it comes to base stealing and pure speed. As for the art of base running, that's a tough stat to track.

FWIW... JP was statistically among the bottom 3 SS's in the league from May 1 forward... something you have never and will never admit. Which is why you posted some stupid article about him being a good guy in the post you just linked me.

An opinion was added to supplement the statistics previously provided (and just linked).

Wide-ranging opinions are welcome. Keep 'em coming.

You posted a quote from an emotional WS fan about Anderson's defense and base running. That isn't even a source

You provided no statistics to back that up in the post you linked where we discussed this before. You referenced his WAR and injury history... has nothing to do with his D or base running.

That places the contributor on equal footing with contributors to this forum.

[Seattle or Bust]

An opinion was added to supplement the statistics previously provided (and just linked).

Wide-ranging opinions are welcome. Keep 'em coming.

You posted a quote from an emotional WS fan about Anderson's defense and base running. That isn't even a source

You provided no statistics to back that up in the post you linked where we discussed this before. You referenced his WAR and injury history... has nothing to do with his D or base running.

That places the contributor on equal footing with contributors to this forum.

It's not a source.

And I certainly do not view all opinions on this forum as equal... particularly if they're not backed up.

That's a really weird way of evaluating what information is credible and what isn't.

[harmony]

You posted a quote from an emotional WS fan about Anderson's defense and base running. That isn't even a source

You provided no statistics to back that up in the post you linked where we discussed this before. You referenced his WAR and injury history... has nothing to do with his D or base running.

That places the contributor on equal footing with contributors to this forum.

It's not a source.

And I certainly do not view all opinions on this forum as equal... particularly if they're not backed up.

That's a really weird way of evaluating what information is credible and what isn't.

Don't be desperate for validation.

Contributors can offer factual statistics ... or not. Contributors can offer opinions ... or not.

Living with contrasting opinions is healthy. Obsession with winning an argument is not.

Keep those contributions coming.

[Seattle or Bust]

That places the contributor on equal footing with contributors to this forum.

It's not a source.

And I certainly do not view all opinions on this forum as equal... particularly if they're not backed up.

That's a really weird way of evaluating what information is credible and what isn't.

Don't be desperate for validation.

Contributors can offer factual statistics ... or not. Contributors can offer opinions ... or not.

Living with contrasting opinions is healthy. Obsession with winning an argument is not.

Keep those contributions coming.

Actually, living with a contradictory opinion about something can be unhealthy if it is factually incorrect.

You can have the opinion that drinking bleach is not going to kill you, but that opinion is unhealthy if you decide to go out and drink bleach or share that opinion with others and it convinces them.

Like I said, anyone here is welcome to have an opinion. Not every opinion will be valued equally. Certainly not an emotional opinion like, "Anderson plays horrible D and is a terrible base runner," when a quick Google search points directly to the contrary.

My opinion that JP Crawford is an underwhelming SS... is backed up by factual information that he was one of the worst SS's in baseball for 5/6th's of a baseball season both offensively and defensively.

People who come out and say, "but, but, but JP Crawford is a great SS!" are factually incorrect and their opinion should be treated as such.

[D-train]

JP blows Anderson away in the most important stat. Connection with fans. JP is at 9.3 and Anderson only 5.7.