2022-23 Offseason Transactions and Rumors

[Seattle or Bust]

Check this out. FFS if this is even close to our lineup......

Projected Lineup

1. SS J.P. Crawford
2. 1B Ty France
3. CF Julio Rodríguez
4. DH Jesse Winker
5. 3B Eugenio Suárez
6. 2B Brandon Drury
7. RF Sam Haggerty
8. C Cal Raleigh
9. LF Taylor Trammell
SP Luis Castillo

Notes

- The Mariners could have a busy offseason on the trade market thanks to an abundance of young, high-ceiling outfielders. Case in point, Kyle Lewis and Jarred Kelenic are not part of the projected Opening Day lineup. Sam Haggerty has played his way into a bigger role by hitting .321/.364/.514 with 12 extra-base hits and 1.4 WAR in 49 games.

- Signing the versatile Brandon Drury to serve as the primary second baseman would add another power bat to the lineup. He could also see time at DH when Jesse Winker plays in the outfield and third base when Eugenio Suárez needs a rest.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/100 ... day-lineup

The guy who wrote this is a nobody. A know nothing.

He worked at ACE Hardware as a floor associate for 8 years and as a free-lance high school sports reporter for some shitty local newspaper until Bleacher Report started paying their fan contributors.

[Donn Beach]

Interesting, doesn't mean anything but it is actually reasonable, why not? They are all reasonable candidate. And they don't to spend, which is the issue isn't it? We want them to spend. Mariners have to be the envy of baseball, getting so far on so little. And with the jrod extension there is no longer a particular window. They can draw this out to their hearts content

[Donn Beach]

Check this out. FFS if this is even close to our lineup......

Projected Lineup

1. SS J.P. Crawford
2. 1B Ty France
3. CF Julio Rodríguez
4. DH Jesse Winker
5. 3B Eugenio Suárez
6. 2B Brandon Drury
7. RF Sam Haggerty
8. C Cal Raleigh
9. LF Taylor Trammell
SP Luis Castillo

Notes

- The Mariners could have a busy offseason on the trade market thanks to an abundance of young, high-ceiling outfielders. Case in point, Kyle Lewis and Jarred Kelenic are not part of the projected Opening Day lineup. Sam Haggerty has played his way into a bigger role by hitting .321/.364/.514 with 12 extra-base hits and 1.4 WAR in 49 games.

- Signing the versatile Brandon Drury to serve as the primary second baseman would add another power bat to the lineup. He could also see time at DH when Jesse Winker plays in the outfield and third base when Eugenio Suárez needs a rest.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/100 ... day-lineup

The guy who wrote this is a nobody. A know nothing.

He worked at ACE Hardware as a floor associate for 8 years and as a free-lance high school sports reporter for some shitty local newspaper until Bleacher Report started paying their fan contributors.

What's he supposed to know? He is supposed to come up with some fantasy trades? I think he has a handle on both dipoto and the roster he has created

[Seattle or Bust]

Check this out. FFS if this is even close to our lineup......




https://bleacherreport.com/articles/100 ... day-lineup

The guy who wrote this is a nobody. A know nothing.

He worked at ACE Hardware as a floor associate for 8 years and as a free-lance high school sports reporter for some shitty local newspaper until Bleacher Report started paying their fan contributors.

What's he supposed to know? He is supposed to come up with some fantasy trades? I think he has a handle on both dipoto and the roster he has created

One would think that after a decade + of working as a "sports writer" that Mr. Ace Hardware would have developed some sources or friends close to teams that he could ask about their roster. Taylor Trammell is not going to be the opening day left fielder. Jesse Winker is not hitting 4th from the DH spot... hell, he might not even be on the team. Oh and JP Crawford should never touch the lead off spot again after the crap he pulled last year.

The Mariners are not rolling into 2023 with a lower payroll than they had in '22.

A quote or two from even bloggers for the Mariners when constructing a roster would suffice.

This writing is lazy and tells you nothing other than the guy didn't do his homework and instead did a 15 minute Google search.

[Donn Beach]

Sources? Give me a break lol... Your sources tell you Winker isn't going to be the fourth outfielder? I'll take that bet. I don't know who is hitting leadoff but I'll bet JP is the opening day SS. But what really pisses you off, they don't spend enough money. I'll bet the owners don't have an issue with it.

[Seattle or Bust]

Sources? Give me a break lol... Your sources tell you Winker isn't going to be the fourth outfielder? I'll take that bet. I don't know who is hitting leadoff but I'll bet JP is the opening day SS. But what really pisses you off, they don't spend enough money. I'll bet the owners don't have an issue with it.

Yes, sources. The people who journalists contact for insider or expert information. Ever written for a news source before Don? You're expected to have sources. I don't need sources or claim to be an authority. This nimrod does and he gets paid for it.

The owners may not have an issue with it. But they're going to do that. They would get absolutely skewered if they roll into '23 w. a lower payroll than '22.

Winker may very well be the 4th OF heading into '23. But he has not earned the DH role and he's certainly not hitting cleanup.

I have no problem with JP being the shortstop in '23 so long as there's a lot of cash spent filling other holes that balance out his mediocre output. I believe that's how most fans feel and even the front office feels given his potential move to 2B.

[GL_Storm]

The owners may not have an issue with it. But they're going to do that. They would get absolutely skewered if they roll into '23 w. a lower payroll than '22.

Skewered by who? When has that ever happened in Seattle?

[D-train]

The owners may not have an issue with it. But they're going to do that. They would get absolutely skewered if they roll into '23 w. a lower payroll than '22.

Skewered by who? When has that ever happened in Seattle?

I asked Stone about the JP sitch:

Hi, Darren. Thanks – that’s interesting about the Seahawks and Mariners, but not TOO surprising in light of the fact the Mariners have only four previous playoff appearances.

I agree – the Mariners should prioritize getting one of those shortstops and not worry about Crawford. He didn’t close the door to Crawford moving like he did last time. But it would be a major mistake to let that stop them from signing one of those guys.

Take care,

Larry

From: Darren Warner <darren.warner@biogen.com>
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2022 9:07 AM
To: Larry Stone <lstone@seattletimes.com>
Subject: M's and Hawks playoffs in 2022

Hi Larry,

I hope all is well. Has been a fascinating year in Seattle Sports history for sure. Curious if you were aware that if the Hawks hang onto the playoff spot it will be the first year ever that both the M’s and Hawks make the playoffs….?

btw Thanks for asking Jerry about the FA SS/JP situation. What do you think about this? Seems insane to me that after finally ending the drought and removing a significant hurdle for FAs to come to Seattle, they unnecessarily create another one by asking one of the 4 best SSs in baseball to move to second base.

I would think even asking the question would make those guys question if they are even serious in their pursuit. Seems it would be insulting even if JP eventually makes way for them.

[GL_Storm]

It seems like every year people on the Mariners internet fan sites get outraged about the payroll, but it never translates to any sort of broad-based contempt, or "skewering" of the ownership group. There's one paper and two sports radio stations with declining audiences, one of which is more or less on the Mariners' payroll, though they are at times mildly critical.

Anyway, I just don't see it. I think the Mariners will probably increase their payroll this offseason, but I doubt public perception has anything at all to do with that. So if for some reason they don't increase payroll very much, or at all, it'll be fine.

[Coeurd’Alene J]

The owners may not have an issue with it. But they're going to do that. They would get absolutely skewered if they roll into '23 w. a lower payroll than '22.

Skewered by who? When has that ever happened in Seattle?

I asked Stone about the JP sitch:

Hi, Darren. Thanks – that’s interesting about the Seahawks and Mariners, but not TOO surprising in light of the fact the Mariners have only four previous playoff appearances.

I agree – the Mariners should prioritize getting one of those shortstops and not worry about Crawford. He didn’t close the door to Crawford moving like he did last time. But it would be a major mistake to let that stop them from signing one of those guys.

Take care,

Larry

From: Darren Warner <darren.warner@biogen.com>
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2022 9:07 AM
To: Larry Stone <lstone@seattletimes.com>
Subject: M's and Hawks playoffs in 2022

Hi Larry,

I hope all is well. Has been a fascinating year in Seattle Sports history for sure. Curious if you were aware that if the Hawks hang onto the playoff spot it will be the first year ever that both the M’s and Hawks make the playoffs….?

btw Thanks for asking Jerry about the FA SS/JP situation. What do you think about this? Seems insane to me that after finally ending the drought and removing a significant hurdle for FAs to come to Seattle, they unnecessarily create another one by asking one of the 4 best SSs in baseball to move to second base.

I would think even asking the question would make those guys question if they are even serious in their pursuit. Seems it would be insulting even if JP eventually makes way for them.

That’s encouraging. Might have to go back and watch the end of season pressor again. Was sure Jerry brought up the JP is our ss and carved it in stone