2025 Prospects Thread

[D-train]

He was so successful they traded for a rental to replace him and demoted him.

He put up 1.3 war in 277 at bats, is that failure?

bWAR over values D. 0.4 fWAR. And yes they demoted him so they think he wasn't good enough.

[Donn Beach]

I honestly don't know how you can watch BW hit a baseball and think he is going to be a viable MLB starting 3B.

It's not to do with what I think, I'm talking about what they think. This is the guy they used a second round pick on. It's not like they promoted him to the majors and he forgot how to hit. They drafted him, promoted him where he performed pretty much as he would be expected didn't he? But they aren't going to have any expectations for him

They promoted him because Polanco was an epic fail at 3B. If they had signed a real viable 3B in the off season we wouldn't be talking about another failed 2nd rounder. He is a good kid. I am criticizing them not him.

So they rushed him due to need, he wasn't a failure was he? I'm still curious why draft him, far as i can tell he's performing like he would expect to perform

[Donn Beach]

Here's an actual tome about ben Williamson from lookout landing if you're interested. It's amazingly long

https://www.lookoutlanding.com/2025/6/2 ... es-perfect

[DavidGee24]

He was so successful they traded for a rental to replace him and demoted him.

He put up 1.3 war in 277 at bats, is that failure?

That's a weird rating. That would rate him as a slightly above average player, (the average player being 1.8 over a full season) but if you put nine of him in your everyday lineup and had an average pitching staff, even with the sparkling defense you'd get, I don't see how you could even approach playing .500 ball when you're averaging less than three runs per game.

[Donn Beach]

He was so successful they traded for a rental to replace him and demoted him.

He put up 1.3 war in 277 at bats, is that failure?

That's a weird rating. That would rate him as a slightly above average player, (the average player being 1.8 over a full season) but if you put nine of him in your everyday lineup and had an average pitching staff, even with the sparkling defense you'd get, I don't see how you could even approach playing .500 ball when you're averaging less than three runs per game.

Sure, but we are talking about a rookie rushed to fill a need. To answer my own question, seems to me they have expectations that he can hit for more power, develop some power, but drain thinks that's impossible

[GL_Storm]

It's not to do with what I think, I'm talking about what they think. This is the guy they used a second round pick on. It's not like they promoted him to the majors and he forgot how to hit. They drafted him, promoted him where he performed pretty much as he would be expected didn't he? But they aren't going to have any expectations for him

They promoted him because Polanco was an epic fail at 3B. If they had signed a real viable 3B in the off season we wouldn't be talking about another failed 2nd rounder. He is a good kid. I am criticizing them not him.

So they rushed him due to need, he wasn't a failure was he? I'm still curious why draft him, far as i can tell he's performing like he would expect to perform

He was a senior sign. They signed him for a below slot bonus so that they could sign Farmelo, Peete, and Smith to above slot deals.

[Donn Beach]

They promoted him because Polanco was an epic fail at 3B. If they had signed a real viable 3B in the off season we wouldn't be talking about another failed 2nd rounder. He is a good kid. I am criticizing them not him.

So they rushed him due to need, he wasn't a failure was he? I'm still curious why draft him, far as i can tell he's performing like he would expect to perform

He was a senior sign. They signed him for a below slot bonus so that they could sign Farmelo, Peete, and Smith to above slot deals.

True, and he's performing as was expected isn't he? So it was a throw away pick?

[Juliooooo]

So they rushed him due to need, he wasn't a failure was he? I'm still curious why draft him, far as i can tell he's performing like he would expect to perform

He was a senior sign. They signed him for a below slot bonus so that they could sign Farmelo, Peete, and Smith to above slot deals.

True, and he's performing as was expected isn't he? So it was a throw away pick?

He’s been a great pick, but nobody expected him to be a long term 3B for the mariners

[GL_Storm]

So they rushed him due to need, he wasn't a failure was he? I'm still curious why draft him, far as i can tell he's performing like he would expect to perform

He was a senior sign. They signed him for a below slot bonus so that they could sign Farmelo, Peete, and Smith to above slot deals.

True, and he's performing as was expected isn't he? So it was a throw away pick?

I don't know what that means. I think they needed to unlock that money and so they tried to create a win/win and still get value with the pick. BW might not have been drafted until after the 10th round, so 600K probably looked like the windfall of the century. From the Mariners perspective, they saw a guy that had major league defensive skills in the infield with a bat that was questionable, at best. But when you think about it, most second round picks don't make it to the majors anyway. So if you can get a guy that you KNOW can play the skilled infield positions already, that has those skills locked down already, then that pick starts to look more reasonable.

[Bil522]

Season Age WAR G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+

Player A. 24 1.3 85 295 277 36 70 13 0 1 21 5 1 15 64 .253 .294 .310 .604 77

Player B 26 0.5 65 196 171 20 41 5 0 2 20 2 1 17 26 .240 .314 .304 .619 74

Player C 21 1.4 133 486 457 49 129 21 5 2 47 8 5 21 38 .282 .313 .363 .676 91

Player D 21 -0.4 145 507 463 31 110 16 3 3 32 1 2 31 51 .238 .292 .305 .597 69


Name the player whose exploits on the diamond are so horrible that they never deserve to play another season


****Sorry this looks bad on a phone...on the computer everything is perfect aligned

5'11" 206 lb Jarred Kelenic age 23 season: .746 OPS
6'0" 210 lb Ben Williamson age 24 season: .604 OPS

He...........just.............needs...............more..............ttttiiiimmmeee

Player A is Ben Williamson, who is not in last place in any of the statistical categories and beat the others in some categories

The next 3 players, the seasons I used were the seasons before they did better in the big leagues. They all played 3b..see if you heard of them.

Player B is Edgar

Player C is George Brett

Player D is another glove first guy by the name of Brooks Robinson

All Hall of Famers, but they struggled to catch up to MLB right away. None had the power they would develop over time. Maybe we let Ben figure out MLB and see what happens down the road. T-Mobile is a hard place to be a good hitter. We all know he can field like a Gold Glover, maybe he hits enough to stay on the field.