Finally! Official Hot Stove League thread!

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Post by Pharmabro » Sat Dec 16, 2023 11:08 pm

D-train wrote:
Sat Dec 16, 2023 9:07 pm
What is Rhys Hoskins worth?
His best year by BWAR was 2022 with 2.9. It looks like he is a 2 WAR guy and he will be entering his age 31 season coming off a lost year to an ACL. He is a right handed strictly 1B/DH type.
RBAT+ has him at a 129 for his career. He has a good 13.5% walk rate and a career .250 ISO.

He is a good hitter.

I am a little concerned that coming off the injury he could start off cold. And the cold early weather in Seattle and T-mobile marine layer, and blatant disrespect from the umps that can't help but hear all the same shit about Seattle being a clown-car organization all leading to a Wong like collapse. I am just not confident that this organization has what it takes to win.

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Post by D-train » Sat Dec 16, 2023 11:19 pm

Nah. Just give him 80 PAs in ST and he will be good to go. He was almost going to play in the playoffs.

I think he will have to settle for a one year $13M prove it deal.
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Post by bpj » Sat Dec 16, 2023 11:40 pm

I think Hoskins would be a great guy to add. Probably at a discount at a position that already comes at a discount.

He may not want to rebound in Seattle, but if they offered the best contract, we could definitely use him.

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Post by D-train » Sat Dec 16, 2023 11:51 pm

bpj wrote:
Sat Dec 16, 2023 11:40 pm
I think Hoskins would be a great guy to add. Probably at a discount at a position that already comes at a discount.

He may not want to rebound in Seattle, but if they offered the best contract, we could definitely use him.
He might not want to come here because there are dumb fuck loser weak bitch assholes running the show but teams have the technology and brain power to adjust his production based on Ballpark factors.
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Post by Sexymarinersfan » Sun Dec 17, 2023 4:58 am

D-train wrote:
Sat Dec 16, 2023 11:51 pm
bpj wrote:
Sat Dec 16, 2023 11:40 pm
I think Hoskins would be a great guy to add. Probably at a discount at a position that already comes at a discount.

He may not want to rebound in Seattle, but if they offered the best contract, we could definitely use him.
He might not want to come here because there are dumb fuck loser weak bitch assholes running the show but teams have the technology and brain power to adjust his production based on Ballpark factors.
Oh, I thought it was because it was a "Liberal shithole!" :lol:

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Post by acctingman » Sun Dec 17, 2023 6:20 am

He's the missing piece to the Mariners WS drought :roll:

Fuck this team

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Post by D-train » Sun Dec 17, 2023 3:32 pm

VERY ambitious plan here. lol
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Post by D-train » Sun Dec 17, 2023 4:02 pm

I told you guys his stats are unprecedented in Pro baseball history now it looks like his contract will be as well.
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Re: Finally! Official Hot Stove League thread!

Post by harmony » Sun Dec 17, 2023 4:08 pm

Could the trade value of Luis Castillo go up depending on the contracts landed by this offseason's free agent starters?

Castillo is guaranteed $91 million over the next four seasons with a 2028 vesting option for another $25 million. The righthander has a full no-trade clause through 2025 with a $1 million assignment bonus thereafter.

Castillo was born the same month as current free agent starters Blake Snell and Jordan Montgomery. The projected contract for Snell ranges from five years, $122 million at The Athletic to seven years, $200 million at MLB Trade Rumors. Montgomery's projected contract ranges from five years, $127 million at The Athletic to six years, $150 million at MLB Trade Rumors.

Early offseason indications are that the projected free contracts have been on the conservative side (although Aaron Nola, who is six months younger than Castillo, came in near projections at seven years, $172 million).

Steamer projects 2024 WAR of 3.4 for Castillo, 3.3 for Snell and 3.2 for Montgomery (and 4.2 for Nola):

https://www.fangraphs.com/projections?p ... pe=steamer

If the Mariners are operating as if they're financially strapped, the M's could offload Castillo's contract (with his consent) for low-cost pre-arb bat. The savings could be flipped in pursuit of a replacement starter because free agent pitchers reportedly find Seattle more attractive than free agent hitters.

Would anyone trade Luis Castillo back to Cincinnati for promising third baseman Noelvi Marte, who headed the package the Mariners sent in the July 2022 trade for Castillo? The Reds could use a top-of-rotation starter.

That would be interesting.

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Post by D-train » Sun Dec 17, 2023 4:19 pm

harmony wrote:
Sun Dec 17, 2023 4:08 pm
Could the trade value of Luis Castillo go up depending on the contracts landed by this offseason's free agent starters?

Castillo is guaranteed $91 million over the next four seasons with a 2028 vesting option for another $25 million. The righthander has a full no-trade clause through 2025 with a $1 million assignment bonus thereafter.

Castillo was born the same month as current free agent starters Blake Snell and Jordan Montgomery. The projected contract for Snell ranges from five years, $122 million at The Athletic to seven years, $200 million at MLB Trade Rumors. Montgomery's projected contract ranges from five years, $127 million at The Athletic to six years, $150 million at MLB Trade Rumors.

Early offseason indications are that the projected free contracts have been on the conservative side (although Aaron Nola, who is six months younger than Castillo, came in near projections at seven years, $172 million).

Steamer projects 2024 WAR of 3.4 for Castillo, 3.3 for Snell and 3.2 for Montgomery (and 4.2 for Nola):

https://www.fangraphs.com/projections?p ... pe=steamer

If the Mariners are operating as if they're financially strapped, the M's could offload Castillo's contract (with his consent) for low-cost pre-arb bat. The savings could be flipped in pursuit of a replacement starter because free agent pitchers reportedly find Seattle more attractive than free agent hitters.

Would anyone trade Luis Castillo back to Cincinnati for promising third baseman Noelvi Marte, who headed the package the Mariners sent in the July 2022 trade for Castillo? The Reds could use a top-of-rotation starter.

That would be interesting.
Yes, I proposed a Castillo for Soto trade in October I believe. Reds could use him but I thought the traded him because they couldn't afford him. Maybe their budget situation has gone in the opposite direction as ours.
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