Finally! Official Hot Stove League Thread

[GL_Storm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCkN5zG8wrg

More rumblings on a possible Bryan Renolds trade.

I don't know who these guys are but I don't find them credible.

[D-train]

Columnist Jim Bowden at The Athletic gives the Seattle Mariners a grade of A- at this early point of the offseason:

The Mariners have had a strong start to the offseason, highlighted by their trade for right fielder Teoscar Hernández, a two-time Silver Slugger Award winner. Hernández will provide solid defense and 25-to-30 home run power. The Mariners improved up the middle by landing second baseman Kolten Wong, a two-time Gold Glove winner, in a trade with Milwaukee. Wong hits right-handed pitching well (.277/.357/.489 slash line in 2022) and can platoon with Dylan Moore at second base. And the Mariners aren’t done: They are expected to acquire one or two more veteran hitters who can play left field or DH.

https://theathletic.com/3980312/2022/12 ... gs-trades/

Yeah I would give them and A- so far and a D+ if they are basically done.

[D-train]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCkN5zG8wrg

More rumblings on a possible Bryan Renolds trade.

I don't know who these guys are but I don't find them credible.

What do you mean. They are just talking about what they would be willing to give up.

[TraderGary]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCkN5zG8wrg

More rumblings on a possible Bryan Renolds trade.

I'd love to get Reynolds, (who wouldn't), but a package of Brash, Hancock, Ford, and Kelenic? Hard pass for me. Remove Brash from the list and I'm listening. Along with Julio, Kirby and Cal, Brash may be my other untouchable unless someone absolutely blew my socks off on a deal.

Edit to add: I would put Munoz on that untouchable list as well.

Gilbert for Reynolds straight up would be a fair deal for both sides. He's a talented and cheap cost-controlled player that a team like the Pirates would covet. Gilbert for Reynolds and go hard after Senga.

[Captain 97]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCkN5zG8wrg

More rumblings on a possible Bryan Renolds trade.

I'd love to get Reynolds, (who wouldn't), but a package of Brash, Hancock, Ford, and Kelenic? Hard pass for me. Remove Brash from the list and I'm listening. Along with Julio, Kirby and Cal, Brash may be my other untouchable unless someone absolutely blew my socks off on a deal.

Edit to add: I would put Munoz on that untouchable list as well.

Gilbert for Reynolds straight up would be a fair deal for both sides. He's a talented and cheap cost-controlled player that a team like the Pirates would covet. Gilbert for Reynolds and go hard after Senga.

Gilbert straight up would be an overpay in my opinion. Get them to Include in Bednar and then I'd be talking about it. Maybe throw a few of our prospects their way as well to make it more palatible for them .

[seattlefan-daBronx]

Per the podcast, Dion & DTrain, we'll end up with 3 first round picks.

Too bad we can't include draft picks yet in trades.

[TraderGary]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCkN5zG8wrg

More rumblings on a possible Bryan Renolds trade.

I'd love to get Reynolds, (who wouldn't), but a package of Brash, Hancock, Ford, and Kelenic? Hard pass for me. Remove Brash from the list and I'm listening. Along with Julio, Kirby and Cal, Brash may be my other untouchable unless someone absolutely blew my socks off on a deal.

Edit to add: I would put Munoz on that untouchable list as well.

Gilbert for Reynolds straight up would be a fair deal for both sides. He's a talented and cheap cost-controlled player that a team like the Pirates would covet. Gilbert for Reynolds and go hard after Senga.

Gilbert straight up would be an overpay in my opinion. Get them to Include in Bednar and then I'd be talking about it. Maybe throw a few of our prospects their way as well to make it more palatible for them .

bpj posted a trade value chart on page 96 of this thread, and the values of Gilbert vs Reynolds were pretty close.

I'm not as high on Gilbert as many here are. He has no command of his secondary pitches and though he possesses an excellent FB, he throws it right down the middle of the plate too often because he's simply unable to spot it. Yes he's still young but compare him to Gilbert who is even younger.

I see Gilberts ceiling as a #2 or #3 starter (which is not bad mind you), versus Kirby who I'm convinced will be dominant.

[Pharmabro]

https://sodomojo.com/2022/12/08/mariner ... -tatis-jr/

Here's an idea....

Tatis - Gilbert swap.jpg

Again, I like it if we acquire someone like a Blake Snell to the starting rotation.
Maybe there's a way to get both.

Ha I saw there was speculation on a deal for their lefty starter who won a CY Snell, Blake. But, I mean Tatis might have pissed them off aand that is why they went after a SS vs Judge/Nimmo etc.

[HawkandMariner88]

Anybody hear anything about Hazen & his plethora of OF prospects in Arizona.

I'm going to cheat and include these guys as one "player" in our top 20 trade candidates. It's a very large group. The Diamondbacks are overloaded with outfielders. They can each be dropped into one of three buckets:

MLB players: Jake McCarthy, Pavin Smith, and Daulton Varsho
Top prospects: Corbin Carroll and Alek Thomas
MLB-ready prospects: Dominic Canzone, Dominic Fletcher, and Stone Garrett

Every single one of those guys hits left-handed except Garrett, who is a righty. Something has to give here. The D-Backs are very deep in lefty-hitting outfielders at the upper levels and it only makes sense to use some of them as trade chips to address other roster needs. GM Mike Hazen suggested such a move could be coming a few weeks ago.

"You take a left-handed hitting outfielder and turn him into a right-handed hitting slugger, yeah, I can see that puzzle coming together," Hazen told the Arizona Republic last month. "… It's not going to be taking one of those guys and trading them for prospects in that type of way."


Picking which players to keep and which players to trade is easier said than done, though I would assume Carroll (the best outfield prospect in baseball) and Varsho (quietly a 5-WAR player in 2022) are in the keeper pile. Likely Thomas as well. He's not quite the prospect Carroll is, though he's highly regarded and entered the season as the top-50 prospect in the game.

Point is, the D-Backs have lefty-hitting outfielders to spare and should use him as trade chips to improve their roster elsewhere. They are so deep in lefty hitting outfielders they could conceivably trade two or three of these guys this offseason, and still have enough outfield depth moving forward.

Possible landing spots: With this many young and controllable outfielders to peddle, the entire league is a potential trade partner. The rebuilding Athletics, on the rise Cubs, and outfield-needy Yankees stand out as clubs that should be at the front of the line for one (or more) of Arizona's outfielders. I have a hard time believing Arizona will go the entire offseason without trading an outfielder. They're not going to give these guys away, but there's a move or two to be made here.


https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlb- ... aying-put/

[Sexymarinersfan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCkN5zG8wrg

More rumblings on a possible Bryan Renolds trade.

I'd love to get Reynolds, (who wouldn't), but a package of Brash, Hancock, Ford, and Kelenic? Hard pass for me. Remove Brash from the list and I'm listening. Along with Julio, Kirby and Cal, Brash may be my other untouchable unless someone absolutely blew my socks off on a deal.

Edit to add: I would put Munoz on that untouchable list as well.

Gilbert for Reynolds straight up would be a fair deal for both sides. He's a talented and cheap cost-controlled player that a team like the Pirates would covet. Gilbert for Reynolds and go hard after Senga.

That package wouldn't even come close to Reynolds Value, even if Brash were in the deal. Gilbert is slightly worth more than Reynolds and even then I would think Seattlecwould have to sweeten the pot to get a deal done with Pit.