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Sears v Woo
1:10pm

Woo better be perfect and pitch a CG.
This offense as most thought, is beyond horrible.

I think the season will really come down to Julio. He needs to become an offensive force and not just this talented kid that has these hot streaks. Right now, he isn't earning his contract, and that's just the reality of it. He's in his fourth year as a major leaguer and there's no evidence of progression or any sort of a learning process happening. He swings at anything close to the zone; the complete opposite of a difficult AB for the pitcher. He should draw 150 walks in a season but he won't come anywhere close to that.

At least our ace is on the mound.

Julio Rodriguez and Bobby Witt Jr. are both entering their fourth season. They are the only two players in MLB history to have both 80+ home runs and 80+ stolen bases through their first three seasons.

They gave him nearly 50 at bats in spring training, guess that's a lot, trying to get him started earlier

Donn Beach wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 30, 2025 8:35 am

Julio Rodriguez and Bobby Witt Jr. are both entering their fourth season. They are the only two players in MLB history to have both 80+ home runs and 80+ stolen bases through their first three seasons.

They gave him nearly 50 at bats in spring training, guess that's a lot, trying to get him started earlier

I realize you don't watch the games so he can't see what he is doing out there.

It has nothing to do with "getting started" and everything to do with how utterly lost he looks at the plate. He has no idea what pitch is coming and is missing sliders by 2-3 feet + freezing on pitches well in the zone.

It's one thing if he's putting the ball in play somewhat weakly... but he's not even doing that. He looks like he has no idea how to swing a bat.

At this stage, a slow start would be fucking fantastic. A slow start would be 2-11 with a homer and fly balls and grounders put in play. Not whatever the hell he is doing out there.

What happened at the end of the 2024 season? It seems the prevailing wisdom is that Edgar helped him cut down his swing or whatever ... just generally contributed to Julio having a .900 OPS in September. Does he need to get back to those "good habits"? Or did somehow opposing pitchers/teams forget what his weaknesses were at that time?

Not that the A's have great pitching but we generally faced some pretty bad pitching staffs during that hot streak the last 5 weeks of the season...None of the media bothered to check on that the 1000 times they referenced how the hitting turned around once Edgar was hired.

gil wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 30, 2025 3:07 pm

What happened at the end of the 2024 season? It seems the prevailing wisdom is that Edgar helped him cut down his swing or whatever ... just generally contributed to Julio having a .900 OPS in September. Does he need to get back to those "good habits"? Or did somehow opposing pitchers/teams forget what his weaknesses were at that time?

I think Edgar is given too much credit for everything.

Julio started taking pitches on the outer half to right field and laying off sliders. When he's looking to do that is when he's at his best. I knew he was fucked after the first AB of the season... Severino threw him a few 6 inches off the plate and he swung right over them.

The biggest conundrum continues to be JP Crawford... the "leader" with noodles for appendages still swings for the fences at pretty much every pitch. How on God's green earth nobody has taught him to become more of a contact guy is beyond me. Liners to left center should be his game... but alas, they just keep letting him swing like an idiot.'

Did anyone see that pitch Randy swung at last night in like the 7th? He literally swung over a slider that missed 3 feet short and left of the plate. Earlier in the game, M's have the A's starter who just threw 8 balls in 9 pitches, walking 2x consecutive... and there's Randy swinging at the first pitch.

They all just lack so much discipline.