roster move for Raley

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roster move for Raley

Post by Vogelbomb » Thu Jun 19, 2025 4:22 pm

Should be Mastrobuoni or Solano getting DFA'd. I'd DFA Mastro as he's going to see the least amount of PT. Moore, Young, Polanco all cover the infield jobs, Moore and Canzone back up OFs. Mastro's versatility becomes useless when he's the last option to play

Most likely will be Canzone returning to minors imo. We shall see

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Re: roster move for Raley

Post by Michael K. » Thu Jun 19, 2025 5:42 pm

Typical Seattle reporting by Jude. Everyone who Raley would be taking over is less of a threat offensively than he is, but somehow? This guy paints a picture that there is a case to keep them all!? Canzone is the only one that DOESN'T make sense to be removed from the lineup, and yet? I'm sure he'll be the one to go.

That said, I love this line
Canzone, albeit in a small sample, has raised some eyebrows with his production over the past 10 days, hitting .241 with a .726 OPS and a 112 OPS+ in 32 plate appearances.
I'm old enough to remember when .241 sucked.
Utility player Miles Mastrobuoni has been a spot starter in right field, and the Mariners had also called up Rhylan Thomas and veteran utility player Samad Taylor in early May for cameo appearances out there.

After Taveras was demoted, the Mariners turned back to Dominic Canzone, who was again tormenting Pacific Coast League pitching with Tacoma.

Canzone, albeit in a small sample, has raised some eyebrows with his production over the past 10 days, hitting .241 with a .726 OPS and a 112 OPS+ in 32 plate appearances.

A 27-year-old left-handed slugger, Canzone delivered one of the most dramatic moments of the season for the Mariners in his first plate appearance of the year, hitting a two-out, two-run game-tying homer in Arizona at 115.9 mph off the bat, the Mariners’ hardest-hit ball of the season.

“Dom has been swinging it well,” Wilson said. “He’s been putting up some good at-bats and it (the roster decision) is a good problem to have.”

Given Canzone’s raw power and improved approach, would the Mariners really send him back down to Tacoma?

Problem is, Canzone offers much of the same skill set as Raley, and the Mariners generally prefer more versatile players for their bench roles, which could squeeze Canzone out of a roster spot.

First base
Would the Mariners break up first-base platoon partners Rowdy Tellez and Donovan Solano?

They’d have to at least consider it, don’t they?

First base is an obvious position at which the M’s will try to upgrade ahead of the July 31 trade deadline, and either Baltimore’s Ryan O’Hearn and Arizona’s Josh Naylor would be ideal additions for the Mariners if the Orioles and Diamondbacks end up selling next month.

Collectively, the Mariners have gotten a -0.9 fWAR from their first basemen so far this season, and their 76 wRC+ (league average is 100) ranks 26th out of 30 MLB teams.

And yet, there are reasons to keep Tellez and Solano, at least for now.

Solano, after an ugly April, has been better in recent weeks, and the 37-year-old only plays against left-handed pitching.

Tellez has been exactly league-average since May 1, with a wRC+ of 100 in his last 39 games. His seven homers over the past six weeks are tied for fourth-most among all MLB first basemen — he’s capable of changing a game with one swing (and he showed Tuesday night that he’s capable of shocking everyone and stealing a base, too).

The defensive metrics haven’t been kind to Tellez at first base. (Then again, the defensive metrics rate Cal Raleigh and J.P. Crawford as below-average defensive players this season, so how much are we really supposed to trust the advanced defensive analytics? End of rant.)

Tellez, your eyes suggest, has been better — much better — defensively at first base than the Mariners were expecting when they signed him initially to a minor-league contract in late February, after spring training had already begun. He’s making just $1.5 million this season.

Raley, meanwhile, has never been as comfortable playing first base as he is in the outfield.
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Re: roster move for Raley

Post by D-train » Thu Jun 19, 2025 5:43 pm

Such a tough decision of which one of the trash cans Jerry filled out the roster with to dump.
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Re: roster move for Raley

Post by D-train » Thu Jun 19, 2025 5:47 pm

Michael K. wrote:
Thu Jun 19, 2025 5:42 pm
Typical Seattle reporting by Jude. Everyone who Raley would be taking over is less of a threat offensively than he is, but somehow? This guy paints a picture that there is a case to keep them all!? Canzone is the only one that DOESN'T make sense to be removed from the lineup, and yet? I'm sure he'll be the one to go.

That said, I love this line
Canzone, albeit in a small sample, has raised some eyebrows with his production over the past 10 days, hitting .241 with a .726 OPS and a 112 OPS+ in 32 plate appearances.
I'm old enough to remember when .241 sucked.
Utility player Miles Mastrobuoni has been a spot starter in right field, and the Mariners had also called up Rhylan Thomas and veteran utility player Samad Taylor in early May for cameo appearances out there.

After Taveras was demoted, the Mariners turned back to Dominic Canzone, who was again tormenting Pacific Coast League pitching with Tacoma.

Canzone, albeit in a small sample, has raised some eyebrows with his production over the past 10 days, hitting .241 with a .726 OPS and a 112 OPS+ in 32 plate appearances.

A 27-year-old left-handed slugger, Canzone delivered one of the most dramatic moments of the season for the Mariners in his first plate appearance of the year, hitting a two-out, two-run game-tying homer in Arizona at 115.9 mph off the bat, the Mariners’ hardest-hit ball of the season.

“Dom has been swinging it well,” Wilson said. “He’s been putting up some good at-bats and it (the roster decision) is a good problem to have.”

Given Canzone’s raw power and improved approach, would the Mariners really send him back down to Tacoma?

Problem is, Canzone offers much of the same skill set as Raley, and the Mariners generally prefer more versatile players for their bench roles, which could squeeze Canzone out of a roster spot.

First base
Would the Mariners break up first-base platoon partners Rowdy Tellez and Donovan Solano?

They’d have to at least consider it, don’t they?

First base is an obvious position at which the M’s will try to upgrade ahead of the July 31 trade deadline, and either Baltimore’s Ryan O’Hearn and Arizona’s Josh Naylor would be ideal additions for the Mariners if the Orioles and Diamondbacks end up selling next month.

Collectively, the Mariners have gotten a -0.9 fWAR from their first basemen so far this season, and their 76 wRC+ (league average is 100) ranks 26th out of 30 MLB teams.

And yet, there are reasons to keep Tellez and Solano, at least for now.

Solano, after an ugly April, has been better in recent weeks, and the 37-year-old only plays against left-handed pitching.

Tellez has been exactly league-average since May 1, with a wRC+ of 100 in his last 39 games. His seven homers over the past six weeks are tied for fourth-most among all MLB first basemen — he’s capable of changing a game with one swing (and he showed Tuesday night that he’s capable of shocking everyone and stealing a base, too).

The defensive metrics haven’t been kind to Tellez at first base. (Then again, the defensive metrics rate Cal Raleigh and J.P. Crawford as below-average defensive players this season, so how much are we really supposed to trust the advanced defensive analytics? End of rant.)

Tellez, your eyes suggest, has been better — much better — defensively at first base than the Mariners were expecting when they signed him initially to a minor-league contract in late February, after spring training had already begun. He’s making just $1.5 million this season.

Raley, meanwhile, has never been as comfortable playing first base as he is in the outfield.
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Re: roster move for Raley

Post by Michael K. » Thu Jun 19, 2025 5:51 pm

LOL, great minds think alike. Like I said, typical Mariner reporting. Everything is sunshine and rainbows. These dudes get paid to write this shit.

.241 opens eyes, Masterbater, Donnie Barrels and Mitch fucking Garver are somehow assets to this team, and being just outside of the playoffs after nearly a decade long rebuild is perfectly fine. Wash rinse and repeat. I kept my Times subscription because they mail me the Sunday paper for free, and I need paper to start my fire pit! Oh, and it's dirt cheap, which is all that it's worth. I do enjoy the Husky and Seahawk reporting more, but it's just sick how much these guys kiss ass with the Mariners, and to a lesser extent the Hawks.

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Re: roster move for Raley

Post by AlvinDavisFan21 » Thu Jun 19, 2025 7:51 pm

D-train wrote:
Thu Jun 19, 2025 5:43 pm
Such a tough decision of which one of the trash cans Jerry filled out the roster with to dump.
This assessment is spot on.

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Re: roster move for Raley

Post by AlvinDavisFan21 » Thu Jun 19, 2025 7:53 pm

I would DFA Solano, Garver, and Mastro and bring up the kids. In fact, I wouldn't have a problem with Dylan Moore being DFA'd either. The guy looks completely lost at the plate.

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Re: roster move for Raley

Post by Big_Maple » Thu Jun 19, 2025 8:41 pm

Here’s a bold idea: trade for Jarren Duran. The kid has lots of potential. There’s been rumors swirling that he could be traded, but apparently the Sox want to offload Yoshida to dump salary as part of the deal. The Red Sox have a logjam in the outfield especially with Roman Anthony arriving in the scene.

Duran is under team control till 2028, so unlike other trade proposals mentioned, he’s a long term solution and not a short term rental. He’s slashing .258/.312/.412 but only has 5 homers.

Adding Yoshida would mean the M’s have to get spendy, but he would be an excellent DH. He’s on the IL right now but is expected back soon. In 2024 he slashed .280/.349/.415

The Sox need pitching and have had their eyes on Castillo. He’d be a good choice to offset Yoshida’s money, but what about Bryce Miller? I am worried about the bone spur that may need surgery sooner rather than later. Is it worth parting ways with him if Boston wants him? Can we move Duran tonight field? If so, what to do with Raley? What to do when Robles returns?

So many questions….

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Re: roster move for Raley

Post by D-train » Thu Jun 19, 2025 8:46 pm

Big_Maple wrote:
Thu Jun 19, 2025 8:41 pm
Here’s a bold idea: trade for Jarren Duran. The kid has lots of potential. There’s been rumors swirling that he could be traded, but apparently the Sox want to offload Yoshida to dump salary as part of the deal. The Red Sox have a logjam in the outfield especially with Roman Anthony arriving in the scene.

Duran is under team control till 2028, so unlike other trade proposals mentioned, he’s a long term solution and not a short term rental. He’s slashing .258/.312/.412 but only has 5 homers.

Adding Yoshida would mean the M’s have to get spendy, but he would be an excellent DH. He’s on the IL right now but is expected back soon. In 2024 he slashed .280/.349/.415

The Sox need pitching and have had their eyes on Castillo. He’d be a good choice to offset Yoshida’s money, but what about Bryce Miller? I am worried about the bone spur that may need surgery sooner rather than later. Is it worth parting ways with him if Boston wants him? Can we move Duran tonight field? If so, what to do with Raley? What to do when Robles returns?

So many questions….
Bold ideas are where Bold ideas go to die in the M's FO. I honestly don't get why you are SOB waste time on this. I appreciate you but it is just silly.
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Re: roster move for Raley

Post by Big_Maple » Thu Jun 19, 2025 8:52 pm

D-train wrote:
Thu Jun 19, 2025 8:46 pm
Big_Maple wrote:
Thu Jun 19, 2025 8:41 pm
Here’s a bold idea: trade for Jarren Duran. The kid has lots of potential. There’s been rumors swirling that he could be traded, but apparently the Sox want to offload Yoshida to dump salary as part of the deal. The Red Sox have a logjam in the outfield especially with Roman Anthony arriving in the scene.

Duran is under team control till 2028, so unlike other trade proposals mentioned, he’s a long term solution and not a short term rental. He’s slashing .258/.312/.412 but only has 5 homers.

Adding Yoshida would mean the M’s have to get spendy, but he would be an excellent DH. He’s on the IL right now but is expected back soon. In 2024 he slashed .280/.349/.415

The Sox need pitching and have had their eyes on Castillo. He’d be a good choice to offset Yoshida’s money, but what about Bryce Miller? I am worried about the bone spur that may need surgery sooner rather than later. Is it worth parting ways with him if Boston wants him? Can we move Duran tonight field? If so, what to do with Raley? What to do when Robles returns?

So many questions….
Bold ideas are where Bold ideas go to die in the M's FO. I honestly don't get why you are SOB waste time on this. I appreciate you but it is just silly.
Gotta talk about something besides all the wins the M’s are having.

Besides, I’m in a flight back to SFO. I’m in middle seat bored out of my skull and my ass is falling asleep. Gotta do something….

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