Oregon approves 800M for MLB in Portland

[Pharmabro]

Some of this is dependent on them being in the AL with us, but I think both teams would get a slightly bigger area on the map than 1/2 the M's current control but not enough to be a power franchise.

One pf the problems Seattle faces is they may have a similar "population of TV watchers as say the Yankees NY MSA is about 20M, but Seattle is only 4.1M. The populations of Wa. is about 8M, Oregon is 4.3M, Idaho is 2M, Montana is 1.2M, Alaska is 750K= about 16 million

Possible replacements if Portland happens:

#1 Seattle gets BC 5M, and Victoria and Vancouver would represent major population centers that could drive down for the game easily

#2 Seattle adds the Alberta TV markets 4.3M

#3 Portland gets Hawaii as part of its market (1.5M). This would be a sneaky good get. Hawaii has a lot of tourists and occasionally the tourists watch TV and if that TV is in front of some kid and his 1st exposure to baseball is your franchise?

#4 Since Oakland is now centered in Las Vegas, Portland gets to push a South to all of Oregon and into Northern California, Takes S. Idaho, Utah including SLC.

If this happens there needs to b shake-up. Toronto having an exclusive TV market of 40 million people never seemed fair to me.

[mostonmike]

I wouldn't give this a second thought at the moment. Portland at this stage is only about 4th most likely market to be awarded a new franchise. The bookies are often the best arbiters of where these things might go and have Nashville (36%), Salt Lake City (22%), and Charlotte (16%) further up the pecking order - before you get to Portland (13%).

Montreal (9%) are also interested and if any city could leap out from the pack, the attraction of taking another team to Canada might be attractive to MLB - I'd have a sneaky suspicion that Montreal will have a team by the end of the decade albeit a relocation is most likely option for them.

But if Portland are getting their campaigning machinations into position then its a good time to perhaps pitch a safe-bet to MLB. Their pitch is clearly to tell MLB "No problems here, were all set to go". After all the Oakland nonsense and Tampa not exactly looking committed long-term, this might be something that MLB want to go with.

But if we know anything about the motives of leagues, I would even say that Portland have just presented a fantastic bargaining chip to drive up the price that Nashville / Salt Lake / Charlotte will have to pay. "Come on you need to pay another $250m otherwise we will go with Portland".

[Donn Beach]

The Rays are about to be sold to a Florida developer so they probably aren't getting moved, expansion is years away.

[D-train]

I wouldn't give this a second thought at the moment. Portland at this stage is only about 4th most likely market to be awarded a new franchise. The bookies are often the best arbiters of where these things might go and have Nashville (36%), Salt Lake City (22%), and Charlotte (16%) further up the pecking order - before you get to Portland (13%).

Montreal (9%) are also interested and if any city could leap out from the pack, the attraction of taking another team to Canada might be attractive to MLB - I'd have a sneaky suspicion that Montreal will have a team by the end of the decade albeit a relocation is most likely option for them.

But if Portland are getting their campaigning machinations into position then its a good time to perhaps pitch a safe-bet to MLB. Their pitch is clearly to tell MLB "No problems here, were all set to go". After all the Oakland nonsense and Tampa not exactly looking committed long-term, this might be something that MLB want to go with.

But if we know anything about the motives of leagues, I would even say that Portland have just presented a fantastic bargaining chip to drive up the price that Nashville / Salt Lake / Charlotte will have to pay. "Come on you need to pay another $250m otherwise we will go with Portland".

Exactly. What a waste of time to even consider it at this point. People have been waiting 17 years for NBA expansion. I haven't heard a peep about MLB expansion. Not to mention Stanton et al would fight to the death opposing it.

[Vogelbomb]

Some of this is dependent on them being in the AL with us, but I think both teams would get a slightly bigger area on the map than 1/2 the M's current control but not enough to be a power franchise.

One pf the problems Seattle faces is they may have a similar "population of TV watchers as say the Yankees NY MSA is about 20M, but Seattle is only 4.1M. The populations of Wa. is about 8M, Oregon is 4.3M, Idaho is 2M, Montana is 1.2M, Alaska is 750K= about 16 million

Possible replacements if Portland happens:

#1 Seattle gets BC 5M, and Victoria and Vancouver would represent major population centers that could drive down for the game easily

#2 Seattle adds the Alberta TV markets 4.3M

#3 Portland gets Hawaii as part of its market (1.5M). This would be a sneaky good get. Hawaii has a lot of tourists and occasionally the tourists watch TV and if that TV is in front of some kid and his 1st exposure to baseball is your franchise?

#4 Since Oakland is now centered in Las Vegas, Portland gets to push a South to all of Oregon and into Northern California, Takes S. Idaho, Utah including SLC.

If this happens there needs to b shake-up. Toronto having an exclusive TV market of 40 million people never seemed fair to me.

TV markets are doneso in about 16 months. MLB is going to open everything up to streaming so IDK why you're even looking at RSN footprints

[Vogelbomb]

I wouldn't give this a second thought at the moment. Portland at this stage is only about 4th most likely market to be awarded a new franchise. The bookies are often the best arbiters of where these things might go and have Nashville (36%), Salt Lake City (22%), and Charlotte (16%) further up the pecking order - before you get to Portland (13%).

Montreal (9%) are also interested and if any city could leap out from the pack, the attraction of taking another team to Canada might be attractive to MLB - I'd have a sneaky suspicion that Montreal will have a team by the end of the decade albeit a relocation is most likely option for them.

But if Portland are getting their campaigning machinations into position then its a good time to perhaps pitch a safe-bet to MLB. Their pitch is clearly to tell MLB "No problems here, were all set to go". After all the Oakland nonsense and Tampa not exactly looking committed long-term, this might be something that MLB want to go with.

But if we know anything about the motives of leagues, I would even say that Portland have just presented a fantastic bargaining chip to drive up the price that Nashville / Salt Lake / Charlotte will have to pay. "Come on you need to pay another $250m otherwise we will go with Portland".

Exactly. What a waste of time to even consider it at this point. People have been waiting 17 years for NBA expansion. I haven't heard a peep about MLB expansion. Not to mention Stanton et al would fight to the death opposing it.

You haven't heard a peep? It's been mentioned at every Manfred presser in the GM meetings in the offseason. It's coming, just a matter of when. Probably with realignment at next CBA. Get with the times.

[Vogelbomb]

The Rays are about to be sold to a Florida developer so they probably aren't getting moved, expansion is years away.

No it isn't. It's coming with new CBA in 2027

[Captain 97]

800 Million is a drop in the bucket these days. Its going to probably be a Billion for expansion fee and 2 Billion to build a stadium. Who do they got with deep pockets that wants a team in Portland?

[Donn Beach]

800 Million is a drop in the bucket these days. Its going to probably be a Billion for expansion fee and 2 Billion to build a stadium. Who do they got with deep pockets that wants a team in Portland?

Yeah, the $800 mil is supposed to be a contribution towards a stadium valued at around 2 bil these days. I guess it shows a willingness to cooperate, that is something. Guess Russell Wilson is an investor

[Millikin]

They'll win a world series before the Mariners, which will be depressing.