Young for Marte?

[Donn Beach]

So supposedly the Dbacks wanted Cole Young in a trade for Ketel Marte and the mariners refused to include him. I don't know, I think I'd be all over a Young for Marte trade. Maybe it speaks to how highly Young is regarded around MLB. Young is going to be a Ketel Marte at a fraction of the cost

[Michael K.]

We fall in love with our own because for some reason this organization thinks that Texas and LA don't really have World Series rings because they don't ONLY Draft, Trade and Develop. The biggest issue is the Dodgers do a great job of developing their own, but they also understand there is value in actual major league talent, and not major league potential. Coly Young was completely over matched last year, so expecting him to be of the same level as Marte? Arrogance and a ridiculous belief that the Farm is more valuable than the team....oh, and they would have had to pay Marte more.

Listening to Brock and Salk sickens me. They are so fired up about this team, and the funny thing is? They didn't talk like this until AFTER the Deadline last year. I realize we are better than this time last year, but we aren't as good as we were in September. I hope I am wrong....but I have ZERO belief that Young will be major league ready, and anything more than a very low end MLB bottom of the order bat. Add that to JP's bottom of the order production? I just don't see the lineup being as long as last year.

Maybe an uptick in Starting Pitching from last year more than makes up for that, but my guess is we are shopping at the deadline and hoping we can add two actual Major League hitter.

[bpj]

So supposedly the Dbacks wanted Cole Young in a trade for Ketel Marte and the mariners refused to include him. I don't know, I think I'd be all over a Young for Marte trade. Maybe it speaks to how highly Young is regarded around MLB. Young is going to be a Ketel Marte at a fraction of the cost

If that's true about the trade, it's probably a good sign, I guess..

Ketel Marte WAS one of our own, afterall, until Dipoto traded him away for Haniger and Jean Segura.

Ideally you keep the guy like Marte (Young) and just sign guys like Haniger/Segura in free agency instead of relying solely on "draft, develop, trade".

Unfortunately, Dipoto did what he always does and went with the low upside, high risk of implosion guys, with his limited open roster spots.

We needed a Segura and young Haniger to put this team over the top. We got old Haniger and J.P. Crawford v2.0.

Guess we'll see how it goes. At least the down scenario looks more like losing in the playoffs at this point.

[D-train]

We fall in love with our own because for some reason this organization thinks that Texas and LA don't really have World Series rings because they don't ONLY Draft, Trade and Develop. The biggest issue is the Dodgers do a great job of developing their own, but they also understand there is value in actual major league talent, and not major league potential. Coly Young was completely over matched last year, so expecting him to be of the same level as Marte? Arrogance and a ridiculous belief that the Farm is more valuable than the team....oh, and they would have had to pay Marte more.

Listening to Brock and Salk sickens me. They are so fired up about this team, and the funny thing is? They didn't talk like this until AFTER the Deadline last year. I realize we are better than this time last year, but we aren't as good as we were in September. I hope I am wrong....but I have ZERO belief that Young will be major league ready, and anything more than a very low end MLB bottom of the order bat. Add that to JP's bottom of the order production? I just don't see the lineup being as long as last year.

Maybe an uptick in Starting Pitching from last year more than makes up for that, but my guess is we are shopping at the deadline and hoping we can add two actual Major League hitter.

I was listening to Brock and Salk to. They are absolutely fawning over this team like it is better than the Dodgers. Insane.

[Michael K.]

I was listening to Brock and Salk to. They are absolutely fawning over this team like it is better than the Dodgers. Insane.

I am already wishing they would just talk football. I get it, everyone is overly optimistic in the Spring....and I believe this team will be good. But pretending that all we needed to do was keep Naylor and sign Donovan, when we lost Polanco and Suarez is crazy. I get that Suarez didn't put up the type of numbers we expected, but he was a part of lengthening that lineup. He is a proven Major League bat with incredible power. I don't have much faith in the bottom three in what will most likely be the opening day batting order.

They talk about Naylor as if he is an addition. No, we kept him because we pretty much had to. This team lost three bats this off season, and only added two. All because they don't want to block the young guys. The last "young guy" to come up and make an impact have been here awhile. Raleigh came up in July of 21. Julio was April of the next year. They contributed immediately....but I'd say Cole Young has light years to go to be even close to as productive as those guys were. Does he need to be? No, but if the bottom four in the order is Robles, Canzone, Crawford and Emerson or Young? Does that sound like this "lengthy" batting order that Salk is creaming his jeans about?

Again, this team is going to be good, but they act like all they had to do was bring back Naylor and the West is Won!

[D-train]

I was listening to Brock and Salk to. They are absolutely fawning over this team like it is better than the Dodgers. Insane.

I am already wishing they would just talk football. I get it, everyone is overly optimistic in the Spring....and I believe this team will be good. But pretending that all we needed to do was keep Naylor and sign Donovan, when we lost Polanco and Suarez is crazy. I get that Suarez didn't put up the type of numbers we expected, but he was a part of lengthening that lineup. He is a proven Major League bat with incredible power. I don't have much faith in the bottom three in what will most likely be the opening day batting order.

They talk about Naylor as if he is an addition. No, we kept him because we pretty much had to. This team lost three bats this off season, and only added two. All because they don't want to block the young guys. The last "young guy" to come up and make an impact have been here awhile. Raleigh came up in July of 21. Julio was April of the next year. They contributed immediately....but I'd say Cole Young has light years to go to be even close to as productive as those guys were. Does he need to be? No, but if the bottom four in the order is Robles, Canzone, Crawford and Emerson or Young? Does that sound like this "lengthy" batting order that Salk is creaming his jeans about?

Again, this team is going to be good, but they act like all they had to do was bring back Naylor and the West is Won!

You forgot the great Ferrer who they got for Harry Ford and got shelled yesterday. Will be interesting to see how this plays out.

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[GL_Storm]

I think overpaying for age 32 Ketel Marte would be a major mistake.

[Michael K.]

I think overpaying for age 32 Ketel Marte would be a major mistake.

Cole Young isn't an overpay.

Age 21 seasons.

Ketel Marte (Age 21 - 2015)
Performance: Debuted on July 31, 2015, playing 57 games for the Mariners, batting a solid .283 with a .351 OBP, 14 doubles, 3 triples, and 2 home runs.
Impact: Posted a 2.2 WAR in that short stint, establishing himself as a high-potential "phenom" prospect.
Role: Primarily operated as a middle infielder (shortstop/second base) and center fielder.

Cole Young (Age 21 - 2025)
Performance: Made his MLB debut on May 31, 2025, after being called up from Triple-A Tacoma. He finished his rookie season batting .211 with a .302 OBP, 4 home runs, 24 RBI, and 7 doubles in 223 at-bats.
Key Moments: Despite struggling for the final two months, Young recorded a walk-off RBI in his first game and became the youngest Mariner (22) to homer and triple in the same game since Alex Rodriguez.
Role: Primarily a second baseman, known for a high walk rate (11.5% in Triple-A) and "sweet swing," though he experienced significant growing pains in his debut season.

I seem to recall Marte even hitting near the top of the lineup, but maybe I am wrong. If the hold up was Cole Young? Then they don't give a shit about getting to the World Series if it means not being able to say "look, we did it with home grown guys!"

The list of guys we waited to develop and ended up watching them walk and either never perform or perform somewhere else is a long one. This team was just over two innings from a World Series, and refuses to upgrade if it means letting go of Cole Fucking Young?

Is Second Base even the issue? Doesn't Donovan play 2nd? I'd imagine Emerson has a brighter future at 3rd than Young does. What's the issue? The issue is they get a hard on saying their Stars are home grown. Which is stupid because we were treading water before trading for two Vets at the Deadline.

[Donn Beach]

Young an overpay? I don't see how you don't make that trade. What's the point of hanging on to young if you trade for Marte? He'd be blocked anyway, it seems to me the ideal trade piece for Marte. If you won't do that then you aren't interested in Marte period. Personally I think when you get the opportunity to add one of the premiere bats in baseball you take it. His output has been virtually identical to mookie Betts since 2023

[GL_Storm]

I think overpaying for age 32 Ketel Marte would be a major mistake.

Cole Young isn't an overpay.

Age 21 seasons.

Ketel Marte (Age 21 - 2015)
Performance: Debuted on July 31, 2015, playing 57 games for the Mariners, batting a solid .283 with a .351 OBP, 14 doubles, 3 triples, and 2 home runs.
Impact: Posted a 2.2 WAR in that short stint, establishing himself as a high-potential "phenom" prospect.
Role: Primarily operated as a middle infielder (shortstop/second base) and center fielder.

Cole Young (Age 21 - 2025)
Performance: Made his MLB debut on May 31, 2025, after being called up from Triple-A Tacoma. He finished his rookie season batting .211 with a .302 OBP, 4 home runs, 24 RBI, and 7 doubles in 223 at-bats.
Key Moments: Despite struggling for the final two months, Young recorded a walk-off RBI in his first game and became the youngest Mariner (22) to homer and triple in the same game since Alex Rodriguez.
Role: Primarily a second baseman, known for a high walk rate (11.5% in Triple-A) and "sweet swing," though he experienced significant growing pains in his debut season.

I seem to recall Marte even hitting near the top of the lineup, but maybe I am wrong. If the hold up was Cole Young? Then they don't give a shit about getting to the World Series if it means not being able to say "look, we did it with home grown guys!"

The list of guys we waited to develop and ended up watching them walk and either never perform or perform somewhere else is a long one. This team was just over two innings from a World Series, and refuses to upgrade if it means letting go of Cole Fucking Young?

Is Second Base even the issue? Doesn't Donovan play 2nd? I'd imagine Emerson has a brighter future at 3rd than Young does. What's the issue? The issue is they get a hard on saying their Stars are home grown. Which is stupid because we were treading water before trading for two Vets at the Deadline.

Marte is at the end of his career. Young is at the beginning of his. There may be some preference for their own guys going on but they've also had this player in the system for several years and they probably think they have a pretty good understanding of his potential.

I think the intriguing part of a Marte trade would have been the chance of an outlier season where he explodes for like 6 wins or something like that. But realistically that probably has to happen in 2026 or maybe 2027. And then after that you're lucky if he gives you an Adam Frazier season.