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Mariners extend Colt Emerson
Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2026 2:41 pm
by harmony
Re: Mariners extend Colt Emerson
Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2026 3:00 pm
by Captain 97
8 years 95 million.
I literally can't believe this. Did Jerry learn nothing from the Evan White debacle. They tried to do a similar deal with Kelenic and thank God he declined.
They already had this dude under control for 6 major league seasons. Even if be becomes a multiple time MVP and maxes out arbitration you would probably wouldn't have to pay him more than 50 Million for those 6 years. If he is just an average to slightly above average player you probably only pay him about 30 Million for those 6 years. So you just handed a dude who has never played in the majors 45-65 Million to get a couple extra years of control. You are basically just betting that he is going to be an allstar and be worth 25-30 Million in year 7 and year 8 of this deal. If he doesn't you come out on the short end of the stick. If he flames out like White and Kelenic you look like a complete fool and you have seriously ham-stringed your payroll moving forward. I also read that there are escalators so in reality if he does become an all-star they will pay him much more than 95 Million. This is asinine and ridiculous. The M's could have gone out and signed an actual contributing player and still had Emerson at the MLB minimum for the next 3 years instead they do garbage like this. Instead of just making the obvious moves to complete the roster Jerry is always trying to prove how smart and innovative he is. If this franchise ever gets over the hump it will be in spite of this clown not because of him.
Re: Mariners extend Colt Emerson
Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2026 3:01 pm
by Big_Maple
He looks like the real deal, but who knows?
Let’s hope he is more of a Jackson Chourio than a Jarred Kelenic.
Or an Evan White.
Re: Mariners extend Colt Emerson
Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2026 3:13 pm
by Michael K.
Captain 97 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2026 3:00 pm
8 years 95 million.
I literally can't believe this. Did Jerry learn nothing from the Evan White debacle. They tried to do a similar deal with Kelenic and thank God he declined.
They already had this dude under control for 6 major league seasons. Even if be becomes a multiple time MVP and maxes out arbitration you would probably wouldn't have to pay him more than 50 Million for those 6 years. If he is just an average to slightly above average player you probably only pay him about 30 Million for those 6 years. So you just handed a dude who has never played in the majors 45-65 Million to get a couple extra years of control. You are basically just betting that he is going to be an allstar and be worth 25-30 Million in year 7 and year 8 of this deal. If he doesn't you come out on the short end of the stick. If he flames out like White and Kelenic you look like a complete fool and you have seriously ham-stringed your payroll moving forward. I also read that there are escalators so in reality if he does become an all-star they will pay him much more than 95 Million. This is asinine and ridiculous. The M's could have gone out and signed an actual contributing player and still had Emerson at the MLB minimum for the next 3 years instead they do garbage like this. Instead of just making the obvious moves to complete the roster Jerry is always trying to prove how smart and innovative he is. If this franchise ever gets over the hump it will be in spite of this clown not because of him.
It would appear that dodging the bullet with Kelenic, and swinging and missing with White doesn't matter. I am shocked by this, and at the same time? Not shocked at all. Adding players at the deadline saves money. Hoping that you can sign a future star before he becomes a star for cheap, WOULD save money. Doesn't matter that it has not worked before, just that it might.
It is what an organization more worried about cost savings than winning does. I also think it's some kind of weird flex for them to pretend they invented the wheel.
Re: Mariners extend Colt Emerson
Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2026 3:21 pm
by Captain 97
What if he isn't ready to be called up this year and doesn't even play enough in the Bigs to qualify for a year of service time. The guy is only 20 after all. Then you are just paying him 12 Million to play in the Minors and only really gaining 1 year of control over what you would have had if his clock were to start next season.
Re: Mariners extend Colt Emerson
Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2026 3:31 pm
by Michael K.
Captain 97 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2026 3:21 pm
What if he isn't ready to be called up this year and doesn't even play enough in the Bigs to qualify for a year of service time. The guy is only 20 after all. Then you are just paying him 12 Million to play in the Minors and only really gaining 1 year of control over what you would have had if his clock were to start next season.
It only makes sense to them. Again, I think they would rather do shit like this and hope it works so they can look smart than actually win, but do it conventionally. Draft, Develop and Trade. Again, this organization believes if you win a Ring with Free Agents than you only get half the ring. They think if they do what everyone else is, they won't look smart. I just don't understand the ridiculous cost cutting bullshit that they do, and as you state? This probably won't even cut costs! Do what no one else does so we can look innovative. Makes as much sense as drafting Power Forwards, DTs and TEs and making them O Lineman because playing O Line in college is a bad thing. Trying so hard to be smart they are stupid.
Re: Mariners extend Colt Emerson
Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2026 3:34 pm
by Captain 97
Michael K. wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2026 3:13 pm
Hoping that you can sign a future star before he becomes a star for cheap, WOULD save money. Doesn't matter that it has not worked before, just that it might.
It is what an organization more worried about cost savings than winning does. I also think it's some kind of weird flex for them to pretend they invented the wheel.
That's the thing though. It doesn't really save money. you are actually paying a lot more money just to get a little extra control. What would save money is having a star player playing for you for three years on 800k contract. They're spending 36 Million for his first 3 years instead of 2.5 Million and just hoping he is good enough that a couple of extra years of control makes it worth it.
Re: Mariners extend Colt Emerson
Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2026 3:36 pm
by Donn Beach
Captain 97 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2026 3:21 pm
What if he isn't ready to be called up this year and doesn't even play enough in the Bigs to qualify for a year of service time. The guy is only 20 after all. Then you are just paying him 12 Million to play in the Minors and only really gaining 1 year of control over what you would have had if his clock were to start next season.
He's getting called up lol. They arent signing him to a $95 mil contract and leaving him in the minors for another year, I'll bet he's on the ML roster soon
Re: Mariners extend Colt Emerson
Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2026 3:37 pm
by Mesully11
I am glad to see this.
I think the deals Julio and Cal got will work out to be bargains and I hope this one does also.
One thing this group under DiPoto has done pretty well is to bring in and develop young talent. In fact I would say they are the best this team has ever had at doing this by a wide margin. They believe this kid is the real deal and they are willing to bet around 100 million dollars on that belief! Good for them and hopefully good for this team and it's fans.
If this is a mistake at least it is the right kind instead of penny pinching and never getting close enough to be a world series contender.
I give them a lot of credit for spending some money hopefully wisely. Sure it's a gamble but every contract is.
Re: Mariners extend Colt Emerson
Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2026 3:40 pm
by harmony
Captain 97 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2026 3:00 pm
8 years 95 million.
I literally can't believe this. Did Jerry learn nothing from the Evan White debacle. They tried to do a similar deal with Kelenic and thank God he declined.
They already had this dude under control for 6 major league seasons. Even if be becomes a multiple time MVP and maxes out arbitration you would probably wouldn't have to pay him more than 50 Million for those 6 years. If he is just an average to slightly above average player you probably only pay him about 30 Million for those 6 years. So you just handed a dude who has never played in the majors 45-65 Million to get a couple extra years of control. You are basically just betting that he is going to be an allstar and be worth 25-30 Million in year 7 and year 8 of this deal. If he doesn't you come out on the short end of the stick. If he flames out like White and Kelenic you look like a complete fool and you have seriously ham-stringed your payroll moving forward. I also read that there are escalators so in reality if he does become an all-star they will pay him much more than 95 Million. This is asinine and ridiculous. The M's could have gone out and signed an actual contributing player and still had Emerson at the MLB minimum for the next 3 years instead they do garbage like this. Instead of just making the obvious moves to complete the roster Jerry is always trying to prove how smart and innovative he is. If this franchise ever gets over the hump it will be in spite of this
clown not because of him.
Every business transaction carries risks.
Under Jerry Dipoto, the Mariners have extended Julio Rodriguez, Cal Raleigh, J.P. Crawford, Andres Munoz, Luis Castillo and, of course, Evan White. Check about the fWAR conversion return on their investments:
https://www.fangraphs.com/players/julio ... ting#value
https://www.fangraphs.com/players/cal-r ... ting#value
https://www.fangraphs.com/players/jp-cr ... ting#value
https://www.fangraphs.com/players/andre ... hing#value
https://www.fangraphs.com/players/luis- ... hing#value
https://www.fangraphs.com/players/evan- ... ting#value
Compare the returns to the contract costs:
https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/seattle-mariners/contracts
With good reasons,
Baseball Trade Values ranks the Mariners near the top in team surplus values.
https://www.baseballtradevalues.com/team-rankings
A bust is among a wide range of potential outcomes for Colt Emerson. However, an enterprise that is risk-averse will rarely make significant advancements.
In 10 years the Mariners have gone from a perennial loser to a solid contender with a top farm system ... despite apparent financial contraints. If that's the work of clowns ... then send in the clowns.