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Fun Read. Every team's best former M.
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:12 am
by Hanjag
https://prospectinsider.com/best-former ... is-taylor/
Angels – Mark Langston
Years: 1990-96
WAR: 12.9
Astros – Mike Hampton
Years: 1994-99
WAR: 14.1
Athletics – Dave Henderson
Years: 1988-93
WAR: 19.6
Blue Jays – José Cruz
Years: 1997-2002
WAR: 11.5
Diamondbacks – Ketel Marte
Years: 2017-19
WAR: 11.3
Plenty more Fister, Griffey, Arod, Vizquel, Jones, Swift, And you get the story of what they were sent out for.
Re: Fun Read. Every team's best former M.
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:37 pm
by Donn Beach
Ketel Marte is just getting going
Re: Fun Read. Every team's best former M.
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 9:00 pm
by DavidGee24
Man, Marte just pisses you off. Where was even a hint of this when he wore a Mariner uniform? He hit ONE freaking home run in his last season before he was traded.
Re: Fun Read. Every team's best former M.
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 9:51 pm
by Michael K.
DavidGee24 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2019 9:00 pm
Man, Marte just pisses you off. Where was even a hint of this when he wore a Mariner uniform? He hit ONE freaking home run in his last season before he was traded.
Was going to say, that one isn't really on the FO. Something tells me he either started juicing or started realizing he had better get better! That being said, would he have been a part of this rebuild? Probably not, and would we have been any better a couple of years ago had we not traded him? Nope. So, water under the bridge I guess?
Re: Fun Read. Every team's best former M.
Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 12:39 am
by Donn Beach
I have issues with how they handled it. He had always been a good hitter, advanced rapidly through the minors. I liked him, thought he was better than his 2016 might indicate. But the Mariners gave up on him, I didn't particularly like the trade because I felt Marte could be comparable to Segura at a cheaper cost. I never really understood what they were trying to gain there, other than their rush to try and compete I guess. Why trade away a guy that had the possibility to be Segura in a couple of years just to pay Segura all that money to be Segura, again, it was waiting the two years. Its the same thing they did with the pitching they traded away, no time to wait to develop it. So he changes his swing and his stance at the plate, believe he added a leg kick, increases his loft, figures out the weight transfer, is more selective with the pitches he swings at. Doesn't surprise me at all he managed to hit as well as Segura, but the killer is he manages to be a lot better. If they are going to always be blamed for trading away David Otiz, don't see how they deserve a pass on Marte.
from when he was a prospect
The swing is simple; getting through the zone quickly with a slight load and very little movement before dropping into the contact zone. His hand-eye coordination is outstanding ... he’s willing to get on base via walk. There’s some natural loft from his hand drop, but his light build and lack of weight transfer makes hitting for power unlikely. He’s a borderline plus-plus runner though, so any ball hit into the gap has a chance to turn into a triple.
4th in MVP voting, Dbacks control him through 2024
Re: Fun Read. Every team's best former M.
Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:54 pm
by Double Mocha Man
Hanjag wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:12 am
https://prospectinsider.com/best-former ... is-taylor/
Angels – Mark Langston
Years: 1990-96
WAR: 12.9
Astros – Mike Hampton
Years: 1994-99
WAR: 14.1
Athletics – Dave Henderson
Years: 1988-93
WAR: 19.6
Blue Jays – José Cruz
Years: 1997-2002
WAR: 11.5
Diamondbacks – Ketel Marte
Years: 2017-19
WAR: 11.3
Plenty more Fister, Griffey, Arod, Vizquel, Jones, Swift, And you get the story of what they were sent out for.
There's a World Series winning team right there! Without trash cans or cameras.
Re: Fun Read. Every team's best former M.
Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:57 pm
by Double Mocha Man
Mr. Marte has turned out alright. On the other hand, did Arizona know that Mr. Hanniger would be bustin' his balls for us?!
Re: Fun Read. Every team's best former M.
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 1:27 am
by Donn Beach
and Walker has been a non factor for them, but they still made the playoffs the next season. looked at Walker, sort of funny to me, 0.1 bWAR, he pitched a single inning, the last game of the season