Free Agents - Cap Space - who stays, who's gone

Donn Beach
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Re: Free Agents - Cap Space - who stays, who's gone

Post by Donn Beach » Tue Mar 03, 2026 3:43 am

You know Geno spent years behind other QBs learning. I really don't see why he'd have a problem with that.

I'd probably be flipping off fans myself, when did fans ever become so sacrosanct? Heck, Leo Durocher had security take a fan that had been heckling him under the bleachers and he worked him over with brass knuckles. Now you can't even flip them off without getting in trouble, talk about woke. lol
Accuser John Christian was a huge Dodgers fan, a star athlete at Thomas Jefferson High School in Brooklyn, and a veteran, with a sore knee that he hurt in a glider accident while in the Army. Sitting at Ebbets Field with another former Jefferson High star, Dutch Garfinkel, Christian let fly with some choice words for Durocher at top volume. "His voice could carry two or three blocks," Garfinkel remembered. Durocher testified that Christian called him a "bum" and a "thief," and accused him of throwing games.

A security man named Joe Moore pushed his way to Christian and ordered the fan to come with him. Moore, a gargantuan fellow who pushed 275 pounds, was legendary at Ebbets Field for whaling on kids who tried to sneak into the park. The two men made their way to a small room behind the Dodgers dugout.

Here the accounts diverged. Christian said on the stand that Leo came back, took a "black object" (most likely Moore's trademark cosh), and knocked him down. "Then he punched me in the face while I was down...Moore pushed me out and Durocher followed me and beat me again with his fists. I fell down again and Moore said 'I'm going to throw you outta the park.'"

Leo, unsurprisingly, remembered it differently. "Have you a mother?" he said he asked Christian. "Well, how would you like it if...I went to your house and called her the names you have been shouting out tonight?"

"You're still an asshole," Durocher testified Christian replied.

"I ran at him," the Lip continued. "I saw him fall against a wall. He fell into a water trough. I did not pursue him. I don't know what might have happened if...I had gotten my hands on him." Somehow, Leo managed to maintain a straight face during his time on the witness stand.
The jury took 36 minutes to acquit him lol.

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Re: Free Agents - Cap Space - who stays, who's gone

Post by trharder » Tue Mar 03, 2026 2:36 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Tue Mar 03, 2026 3:43 am
You know Geno spent years behind other QBs learning. I really don't see why he'd have a problem with that.
I'd probably be flipping off fans myself, when did fans ever become so sacrosanct? Heck, Leo Durocher had security take a fan that had been heckling him under the bleachers and he worked him over with brass knuckles. Now you can't even flip them off without getting in trouble, talk about woke. lol
Geno started for the Jets in his rookie season and most of his second season.
The picture of Geno flipping off the heckler isn't a story of a heckler being a dick, it's an encapsulation of a player
who, right in front of his biggest supporter (Pete), embarrasses his biggest supporter and his new team. Geno virtually
got Pete fired two years in a row. Geno has a shitty attitude and has since the draft. You could not pick a worse
mentor for Mendoza.

Smith was in attendance for the first round of the draft as many analysts and scouts expected him to be taken that night.[53] However, Smith was not selected, and EJ Manuel was the lone quarterback taken in the first round.[54] Smith declined to be interviewed by ESPN afterwards and originally planned to return home but later decided to attend the second day of the draft.[54] Several league executives alleged Smith did not handle the draft process in a professional manner, which caused him to fall out of the first round,[55]

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Re: Free Agents - Cap Space - who stays, who's gone

Post by Michael K. » Tue Mar 03, 2026 3:06 pm

trharder wrote:
Tue Mar 03, 2026 3:16 am
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Donn Beach wrote:
Mon Mar 02, 2026 3:18 am
Graziano: Multiple coaches from teams looking to add a QB told me that they were eager to see whether the Raiders would release Smith because they thought his tape from last season suggested he was held back by the Raiders' offensive system. The Raiders are expected to select Indiana QB Fernando Mendoza with the first pick of the draft, but they're telling people they'd rather not play a rookie QB in Week 1. So, because they have to pay Smith anyway, they could keep him and start him until Mendoza is ready. If they part ways, there will be interest in Smith
"hey, Geno, since we have to pay you anyway, we are going to start you for a while so you can big bro mentor
this tall dorky white kid who we will replace you with. You're cool with that, right?"
I've seen that photo a few times, and it always cracks me up. Looks like Pete is Jacked!

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Re: Free Agents - Cap Space - who stays, who's gone

Post by Donn Beach » Tue Mar 03, 2026 4:16 pm

And Geno has said that when confronted with a similar situation with Seattle in 2023. I don't know the man, never met him I really try to not make sweeping judgments about a guy's character. I am no angel myself. From what I've picked up about Geno, he's an absolute gym rat of a competitor and he's emotional. But I have no reason to believe he be pissy to a new rookie QB entering the league. If he was that kind of a teammate they'd cut him. There be no reason to keep him around to poison the atmosphere of Kubiak and Mendoza's first season.
On Thursday, Smith was asked whether he’d view the arrival of rookie quarterback as a competition or an opportunity to act as a mentor.
“I’d say it’s both. I love to compete, so I’ll compete with anybody,” Smith said. “I’m also gonna help them out as much as I can. Same as we did with Drew [Lock]. Our QB room is so tight knit and we’re all so connected that we act as one. Whether it’s a young guy or someone else, I’m gonna help that player just like any other player on our team be the best that he can be because that’s my job as a leader.”

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Re: Free Agents - Cap Space - who stays, who's gone

Post by trharder » Tue Mar 03, 2026 8:00 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Tue Mar 03, 2026 4:16 pm
And Geno has said that when confronted with a similar situation with Seattle in 2023. I don't know the man, never met him I really try to not make sweeping judgments about a guy's character. I am no angel myself. From what I've picked up about Geno, he's an absolute gym rat of a competitor and he's emotional. But I have no reason to believe he be pissy to a new rookie QB entering the league. If he was that kind of a teammate they'd cut him. There be no reason to keep him around to poison the atmosphere of Kubiak and Mendoza's first season.
On Thursday, Smith was asked whether he’d view the arrival of rookie quarterback as a competition or an opportunity to act as a mentor.
“I’d say it’s both. I love to compete, so I’ll compete with anybody,” Smith said. “I’m also gonna help them out as much as I can. Same as we did with Drew [Lock]. Our QB room is so tight knit and we’re all so connected that we act as one. Whether it’s a young guy or someone else, I’m gonna help that player just like any other player on our team be the best that he can be because that’s my job as a leader.”
If Geno is as good as you make him out to be, there'd be no reason to draft Mendoza. We will see what happens, but my prediction
is the release Geno and find another mentor/backup.
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