2025 draft class rookie season prediction contest $$$

[Sibelius Hindemith]

Picks can be changed up until some time shortly before the season begins in order to minimize the impact of luck with regard to injury situations.

[Sibelius Hindemith]

Where do you guys see Ouzts getting starts? He's listed as a TE isn't he? I don't know if FB should count since he's probably going to be the only guy playing FB unless he gets injured so technically he could be considered the starting FB every game he is on the active roster even if he only is on the fisld for a 2 or 3 plays in that capacity.

[Michael K.]

Where do you guys see Ouzts getting starts? He's listed as a TE isn't he? I don't know if FB should count since he's probably going to be the only guy playing FB unless he gets injured so technically he could be considered the starting FB every game he is on the active roster even if he only is on the fisld for a 2 or 3 plays in that capacity.

Good point. I looked at it as being on the field to start the game. I was just hedging my bet a little, thinking there may be some games they start out in 21 personnel. I miss the old Mack Strong and Mike Rob run game days, so maybe this is again wishful thinking on my part. But I don't think it is a coincidence that some of our best run days were letting the RB run down hill behind a FB, instead of starting out flat footed in the gun next to the QB.

I realize many times when your O Line isn't the greatest, it helps to spread things out, but we seem to just resort to that a few times a game then throw our hands up and decide that the run game doesn't work. Some of our best offensive plays the past several years have been turned in by K 9. Even though for some reason Pete and his staff decided that he was only able to run dive plays and then had to be off the field on third down. It really disappointed me that they did the same last year. If you need to rest K9, let Charbo do the between the tackle shit.

[57reasons]

Interesting, you both then feel that Riley Mills will miss the entire season from the knee injury?

i think that's at least as plausible as him getting any other small number of snaps one could guess at. Certainly not the goal, but as a round 5 selection i look at him as a luxury pick, more talented than that draft position, and thus worth waiting for - I'm not rushing his rehab just to get him some snaps in the rotation, especially when your best DL players already play that 3-tech position. Now if he was a Nose Tackle i might be more tempted to rush him.

[57reasons]

Where do you guys see Ouzts getting starts? He's listed as a TE isn't he? I don't know if FB should count since he's probably going to be the only guy playing FB unless he gets injured so technically he could be considered the starting FB every game he is on the active roster even if he only is on the fisld for a 2 or 3 plays in that capacity.

Good point. I looked at it as being on the field to start the game. I was just hedging my bet a little, thinking there may be some games they start out in 21 personnel. I miss the old Mack Strong and Mike Rob run game days, so maybe this is again wishful thinking on my part. But I don't think it is a coincidence that some of our best run days were letting the RB run down hill behind a FB, instead of starting out flat footed in the gun next to the QB.

I realize many times when your O Line isn't the greatest, it helps to spread things out, but we seem to just resort to that a few times a game then throw our hands up and decide that the run game doesn't work. Some of our best offensive plays the past several years have been turned in by K 9. Even though for some reason Pete and his staff decided that he was only able to run dive plays and then had to be off the field on third down. It really disappointed me that they did the same last year. If you need to rest K9, let Charbo do the between the tackle shit.

Yes, if you're on the field on the first snap, that's a starter. Akin to Red Bryant starting ahead of the more talented Michael Bennett who would log more snaps, because the first snap is always a first down and more likely to be a running play. I figure Outzs to be used as an H-back or fullback more than a true TE, and can see them wanting to set a physical tone at the outset.

[Sibelius Hindemith]

I was basically just going to refer to Profootballreference with regard to determining number of starts. Does that seem reasonable?

[Donn Beach]

So being a starter would be a function of the first play the team decides to run or the defense they decide to use initially

Like if the Rams decided to run their first play of the game from 4 WR-1 TE empty then Todd Gurley would not be credited with a start which is stupid as fuck. Gurley will probably account for 150 yards and be their most productive player and will probably play like 90% of snaps, yet he can’t get credited with a start just because the first play is from empty backfield or shotgun empty

Same thing with defense, if you open in Dime you should still be able to list 3 or 4 starting LBs and 3 or 4 starting DLs and have them get credited with the start since their your starting players, you just opened the game in a formation that didn’t call for them to be on the field

[Sibelius Hindemith]

That's the problem with football, the term "starter" is more about where a player falls on a weekly depth chart based on the team's most common offensive and defensive formations. Otherwise there could be more than 11 starters on each side.

[Michael K.]

I was basically just going to refer to Profootballreference with regard to determining number of starts. Does that seem reasonable?

That works for me.

[Bil522]

Where do you guys see Ouzts getting starts? He's listed as a TE isn't he? I don't know if FB should count since he's probably going to be the only guy playing FB unless he gets injured so technically he could be considered the starting FB every game he is on the active roster even if he only is on the fisld for a 2 or 3 plays in that capacity.

I actually went lite on that. Honestly, I think Kubiak and MM want to pound the snot out of the ball. I think it will be at least 55-45% run pass split this year. I honestly think K9 won't handle the load well and Charb and Mcintosh will pound the ball well. And if you are going to run like that you will need a FB.