Thoughts about our forum after last night's game

[Michael K.]

See, that's funny, because the more I watch that play, the more I don't think it was pass interference. The defender did have his arm kind of through the arm of the receiver, but I never actually saw him pull on his arm. I guess it's a matter of perspective, but when I watched it in slow motion I was even more convinced it was the correct call, even though the announcers were bitching about it.

Dude, he is literally holding his wrist. That is why the receiver sticks one hand out. Imagine losing a game on that no call? Change the Ram uniform to a Seahawk one and tell me you don't see PI? That was obvious. Even the excuse making dickwad in the booth that basically always just backs the refs and says "too close to call" said it was PI. That was when I knew the Refs blew the facemask horse collar on JSN. All the excuse making NFL flunkies in the booth, even that douchebag Watt that literally shed a tear when our INT was overturned? All of them said it should have been a flag.

The officiating is dogshit, and it's not going to change. It's the same reason it's so bad in HS and college. The guys doing it are getting old and no one else wants the fucking job. You couldn't pay me enough to umpire or referee. Well, fine, you could. But it would take a shit ton more than what is being paid.

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"OH MY GOD HOW COULD THEY NOT CALL THAT PASS INTERFERENCE PENALTY! The refs jobbed us! - every single Lambs fan.
"Fuck you." - Every single Saints fan.

[auroraave]

We have a few glass half full posters and a lot of glass half empty posters and then we have SH who is the glass is all moldy and is about to shatter into 1000 pieces. lol

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--SH

[XpertDBA]

See, that's funny, because the more I watch that play, the more I don't think it was pass interference. The defender did have his arm kind of through the arm of the receiver, but I never actually saw him pull on his arm. I guess it's a matter of perspective, but when I watched it in slow motion I was even more convinced it was the correct call, even though the announcers were bitching about it.

Dude, he is literally holding his wrist. That is why the receiver sticks one hand out. Imagine losing a game on that no call? Change the Ram uniform to a Seahawk one and tell me you don't see PI? That was obvious. Even the excuse making dickwad in the booth that basically always just backs the refs and says "too close to call" said it was PI. That was when I knew the Refs blew the facemask horse collar on JSN. All the excuse making NFL flunkies in the booth, even that douchebag Watt that literally shed a tear when our INT was overturned? All of them said it should have been a flag.

The officiating is dogshit, and it's not going to change. It's the same reason it's so bad in HS and college. The guys doing it are getting old and no one else wants the fucking job. You couldn't pay me enough to umpire or referee. Well, fine, you could. But it would take a shit ton more than what is being paid.

I just watched it another 5 times in slow motion and never did he GRAB or hold his wrist. His arm/hand is on top of his wrist and it might be causing some force against his wrist for him not to be able to bring up his arm, but the defender is NOT grabbing his wrist. Sorry, he just isn't.

[Michael K.]

I just watched it another 5 times in slow motion and never did he GRAB or hold his wrist. His arm/hand is on top of his wrist and it might be causing some force against his wrist for him not to be able to bring up his arm, but the defender is NOT grabbing his wrist. Sorry, he just isn't.

So, contact preventing the receiver from using his other hand, while the ball is coming down, isn't PI...because somehow you deem that contact to not be holding. I guess as long as the contact doesn't involve grabbing the receiver its OK? Dude, come one. There is zero chance anyone watching that saw contact impeding the receiver from making the catch and thought that didn't deserve a call. I didn't want the Rams to win, but that was a bullshit no call, and yet another miss by what is an inept fucking officiating crew the NFL has given us.

Again, if the defender is preventing the receiver from using both hands to make the catch, does it fucking matter if one Seattle fan like you watches it a dozen times and says it wasn't a grab?

What criteria below does that play not match?

Pass interference (PI) in football is a penalty for illegally hindering an eligible player's chance to catch a forward pass, involving actions like grabbing, pushing, or hooking an opponent away from the ball, typically occurring beyond the line of scrimmage. It applies to both offense (OPI) and defense (DPI), but DPI is a more significant foul, resulting in an automatic first down at the spot of the foul in the NFL. The key is contact that "significantly hinders" the receiver's opportunity to make a play on the ball, not just any contact.

So, he can't raise his other hand, but that doesn't significantly hinder his ability to catch the pass?

[Michael K.]

"OH MY GOD HOW COULD THEY NOT CALL THAT PASS INTERFERENCE PENALTY! The refs jobbed us! - every single Lambs fan.
"Fuck you." - Every single Saints fan.

HAHA, Holy Shit, I hadn't even thought of that! Yep, Saints fans are screaming, "let us know when it costs you a trip to the Super Bowl!" Well, on that play the Ram defender simply drilled the WR. He didn't grab him, so probably not a PI?

Sorry Xpert, I had to. I actually kind of get what some others see. I just think once the WR is attempting to make a catch? The "hand fighting" has to stop. But Oh My God, I totally forgot about how Saints fans are probable thinking this is a small dose of Karma.

[XpertDBA]

I just said he didn't GRAB or hold his wrist like you said he did. There is no evidence of that.

When watching it in slow motion, its a lot less clear that it was interference, is all I'm saying.

Did he 'hook' his arm and have weight on it'? Debatable, and I can see the argument for interference, but it definitely isn't the slam dunk call you say it was.

To me it looks like arm and hand fighting that happens all the time. If this is interference, then 80% of all defended passes are interference.

Yes, I might be the only fan in America that saw it that way, but I'm still waiting to see where he grabbed or held his wrist. I still don't see it.

[Michael K.]

To me it looks like arm and hand fighting that happens all the time. If this is interference, then 80% of all defended passes are interference.

Hand fighting has to end when the ball is in the air. I just can't get over the fact that he can't raise one of his arms and has to make a one handed attempt, and somehow, physically impeding his ability to use both hands for a catch ISN'T interference. Hand fighting is fine, and last night the booth official even says that....it's hand fighting UNTIL the time he is attempting to catch the ball. By your definition, the DB could just repeatedly slap the WRs arm down, and because he didn't grab it, it's not a foul. Contact from the DB was making it impossible for the WR to lift his other hand to make a catch. Sorry, I just don't see anyway that's not interference.

[Captain 97]

I think it was a good no call. Atwell initiated the contact by sticking his hand into the defender and extending his arm. Pretty standard hand fighting by my judgement.

[XpertDBA]

To me it looks like arm and hand fighting that happens all the time. If this is interference, then 80% of all defended passes are interference.

Hand fighting has to end when the ball is in the air. I just can't get over the fact that he can't raise one of his arms and has to make a one handed attempt, and somehow, physically impeding his ability to use both hands for a catch ISN'T interference. Hand fighting is fine, and last night the booth official even says that....it's hand fighting UNTIL the time he is attempting to catch the ball. By your definition, the DB could just repeatedly slap the WRs arm down, and because he didn't grab it, it's not a foul. Contact from the DB was making it impossible for the WR to lift his other hand to make a catch. Sorry, I just don't see anyway that's not interference.

The thing is, he didn't slap the arm down, didn't grab it, and didn't hold it. I don't know what else the guy is supposed to do. He's covering him like glue and they're both interlocking arms. When I watch it in slow motion, all I can do is commend the defender for NOT grabbing and NOT holding. It seems to me he did everything right. The receiver should have gotten himself more free if he expected absolutely ZERO contact. Receivers need to grow some balls and outduel the defender (like Nacua did on his almost miracle catch). What has to end is this ticky-tack interference bullshit where the receiver is too pussy to go fight for the ball. If he is getting held, grabbed or slapped (or the defenders head isn't turned around), then fine, throw the flag.