Post Mortem: Seattle v Minshew's Minions

[Michael K.]

That was both ugly and beautiful - just like my girlfriend. Hey now!

Very good post AA. I have a few things to add.

A gutsy win for Seattle. Down too many starters to count, another injured QB, refs exerting their will, a mid Arizona team, but a win it was.

Imagine missing an
All Pro DT
All Pro Guard
Pro Bowl LT
Starting QB
Starting Edge
Starting Return Man and #2 WR

And taking your foot off the gas in the 3rd quarter because they QB that you started is now also hurt!?

On the other hand, that was a bad game and a black mark on the NFL in general. Nothing about that experience was enjoyable. I was desperately wishing I could just fast forward and get it over with. It was a painful experience. In a world of gourmet pizza, this was a Little Caesar's anchovy special and it was stale.

Just. Fucking. Yuck.

I have grown tired of watching football this year, ANY football and saying "my god the officiating is bad".
I watched PLU and Lewis and Clark on Saturday because a buddy of mine coaches OL at LC. He actually coached on Slick Rick's staff during that Rose Bowl Era.
The officiating was HORSESHIT. Ruled a Safety on Intentional grounding when the throw went directly over the head of the RB. The game took over three hours because there was a flag on every fourth or so play. Then they'd huddle up for ten minutes. It was just brutal.
Watched the Local rivalry game between Eastmont and Wenatchee. Wenatchee scored a TD at the end of the first half. No time left on the clock. The refs also called PI on Eastmont on the play. They ruled that the TD would count AND the penalty would be enforced on the second half kick! WTF!? If you accept the play, you DON'T accept the penalty. If you accept the penalty? You don't get the TD. WTF!? I was so confused I texted another buddy of mine who coaches HS football just to ask if that was the HS rule. It is not.

The good:
The RB room is back and they made a statement. Charbs and Price were very good. Charbs iced the game and may be the MVP of it. Hard, angry, intentional running - a huge relief. Price snagging passes out of the backfield - is what we all needed to see. We can breathe a sigh of relief - there is hope.

For once a 1 and 2 punch that makes sense. I never understood Charbo as the 3rd down back and Walker as the early down guy. Walker was more explosive and Charbo the gut puncher. I like this new set up. Don't get me wrong, I wish we had Walker, but I still defend the move.

Lock played a gutsy game - he looked injured, it looked like his throws were affected, but he made enough plays, got the plays off on time, executed Fleury's plan, and had zero turnovers. A gutsy performance.

Fleury called a strong game. As soon as AZ's DL went down, he attacked that weakness. Considering having two injured QB's, another oline shuffle, and having to support a weakened defense with Big Cat Williams out, I thought he deserved a game ball for a well-called game.

Much better game on offense, made more sense. Fleury and Lock seem to be much more in tune that Sam and Fleury are.

The defense played well overall, but there were fits and spurts where they were just out of sync. That said, they overwhelmed and harassed Minshew most of the game and he looked very uncomfortable all game. They really played well despite some brief lapses.

Just flew around the field. They were a really bad catch call from pitching a shutout. And don't get me started on the PI flag on Jobe. What a crock of shit.

The BAD:
Witherspoon continues to channel his inner idiot, Woolen, with regrettable and painfully stupid penalties. What the literal fuck. Just do your job and shut the fuck up. Dude ties his shoes by himself and celebrates and taunts like he just single handedly ended the war. Honest to God what is the deal? It's just so fucking CRINGE. Stupid people doing stupid shit. I hope Macdonald goes Clockwork Orange on him and makes him watch Woolen's incomprehensibly stupid penalty from the NFCCG for a few hours this week. I swear to God if he worked in accounting, he's celebrate adding 2 plus 2 correctly by spiking his stapler and tossing a printer out the window. Jesus Christ with the stupidity.

I somewhat disagree. Hear me out. McBride was barking the entire game. I have grown very tired of these officials deciding when taunting should have occured and when it shouldn't. That was a huge play, and McBride had been telling us about every little play he made. So? Spoon told him about the big one. So NOW they flag it? Old white men making decisions like that, in that game? Disgusting. And I only point out white because that is exactly what a see. A bunch of old white men trying to put their stamp on a fast paced emotional game. Sometimes just holding the flag makes more sense. That said, wasn't that like a two yard penalty? So what?

Arizona is not very good. They are also MASH unit. At full strength, we may not have beaten them - not with a paltry 17 points. That's an embarrassingly low output offensively, but I get it. The plan was to run out the clock due to Lock's limitations, and it worked.

Yeah, again, I think we took the foot off the gas because we knew the only way we lose is if we make the kind of mistakes that someone like Milroe can make!

The Ugly: Another week, another game, another experience, completely ruined by officiating. It is the single biggest complaint I have seen on the forums. I have been banging the drum for a few seasons now - the NFL has gotten way way way way to cozy with the gambling community, and it is not unreasonable to wonder if it is affecting officiating. I have never seen a game where TWO plays had THREE flags thrown on it. There was so much suspicious officiating, the 'it wasn't a fumble" or the "it wasn't an interception" that there need to be a fan revolt.

The NFL banks on you having a short-term memory, but my memory is fine and it is week after week after week after week after week of what the fuckery with the officiating. Were they intentionally trying to keep the game close? Would it be for gambling? Or to keep eyeballs watching the game? There is no way they can walk away from that and think "yeah, that was a totally fair and unbiased job we just did.' No way in hell.

The reality is this is nothing more than an entertainment league sponsored by gambling. Legally they do not have to manage the games fairly or accurately. Morally is another matter, but we know there isn't a one shred of morality going on here.

Awful game, unsatisfying, but Seattle picks up a win and finally gets to see what our running game can be again. Charbs is just a blessing in disguise and one of the quintessential Seahawks. SO glad he is back. Dude was channelling his inner Marshawn.

I've said this before, but in seasons past I pushed back on your theory's about the NFL. But it's started to get very ugly. I have watched so much less football this year than ever before. It's just too bad...the constant whistles from old me who are too slow to call the game played as fast as it is now? The constant head scratching WTF was that call moments. I mean, McBride had his forward progress stopped? What the actual fuck is that call? I also thought there were two times they blew the play dead when we should have had a free play. Just a bunch of referees that are in over their depth. And that is the good possibility. The bad one is that the fix is in, and based on some of the calls? It's kind of hard to disagree with those that believe that. Legalized gambling and all of a sudden there are so many of these just terrible calls?[/quote]

I don't buy the "fix" theory, but I am sure a lot closer to being convinced. But on the Charbonnet note? He was fun to watch.

Next up is the grudge match in Sin City. That is going to be very interesting. We may be getting into Milroe territory.

Go Hawks

Hard to believe that the Raiders went from our ex HC to our ex OC. What's next? They try to hire Johns Schnieder?

[Nwadventure]

Luckily the game was not on in SLC- I saw a bit on Redzone- Thanks again Aurora/Wave for the painful recap - lol

Next week at Raiders- Not going to be pretty

You ever eat at Red Iguana in SLC? I think they have a couple in Provo, too. Love that place!

Yes of course- Its two minutes from my work- Chile Tepin another winner right downtown as well- Too much good Mexican here

[Michael K.]

Are they the team that rolled the Cheifs or the team that got
embarrassed by the Bears.

That is my question.

They are literally both teams - most NFL teams can be like that - it should not be surprising - a lot of new and changing parts - new OC, many injuries, oline shuffle, the variables and little things are the diffeerence between winning and losing. Caleb Williams had 4 picks yesterday - he does that vs Seattle and we'll win that every time. The talent level on each team is high - it's all the intangibles, the execution, the least mistakes, the healthiest rosters, that are the difference.

I'll add this. What happens if we make a play on the tunnel screen to Burden, and the Bears don't score to go up ten there? As big of a blow out as that game was? That one play could have swung things. I think Nick E. makes that play more often than not....he just didn't there.

[DavidGee24]

Luckily the game was not on in SLC- I saw a bit on Redzone- Thanks again Aurora/Wave for the painful recap - lol

Next week at Raiders- Not going to be pretty

As gaudy as Cousins' numbers are, he wilts and shows his age against top defenses. All three of his interceptions yesterday were underthrown balls, one for a backbreaking pick-six and the other two to receivers who had beaten their defenders and were wide open.

And here's how many points the Raiders have given up the last seven games:
27
30
45
33
35
33
38

The only way we can lose to those bums is if Millroe plays.