Draft pick grades

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Re: Draft pick grades

Post by Donn Beach » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:23 am

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Maybe there was a good reason why the majority of scouting reports had Collier going in the 3rd or 4th round. I'm so tired of Schneider's apparent need to to make waves with his first pick. The later rounds are where you are supposed to find hidden gems. He could have found a player that could contribute immediately with that pick and still drafted Collier with the picks he used on Barton or Jennings.
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make waves?...hidden gem?...it was purely a need pick, which PCJS will do with their first pick, if you are trying to pick for need, that's not a big reach

this guy called it
https://12thmanrising.com/2019/04/11/se ... j-collier/

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Re: Draft pick grades

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:40 am

It was a position of need and they chose the wrong player to fill it.

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Re: Draft pick grades

Post by Donn Beach » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:47 am

is there a DE picked after Collier that is starting?

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Re: Draft pick grades

Post by D-train » Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:32 am

Donn Beach wrote:
Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:23 am
Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:10 pm
Maybe there was a good reason why the majority of scouting reports had Collier going in the 3rd or 4th round. I'm so tired of Schneider's apparent need to to make waves with his first pick. The later rounds are where you are supposed to find hidden gems. He could have found a player that could contribute immediately with that pick and still drafted Collier with the picks he used on Barton or Jennings.
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make waves?...hidden gem?...it was purely a need pick, which PCJS will do with their first pick, if you are trying to pick for need, that's not a big reach

this guy called it
https://12thmanrising.com/2019/04/11/se ... j-collier/
We needed a player that was good more than a guy with DE after his name.
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Re: Draft pick grades

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:41 am

Donn Beach wrote:
Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:47 am
is there a DE picked after Collier that is starting?
I don't know. Probably. But if Collier was the best DE available, they should have drafted for a different position of need, like Secondary or O-line.

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Re: Draft pick grades

Post by D-train » Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:52 am

Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:41 am
Donn Beach wrote:
Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:47 am
is there a DE picked after Collier that is starting?
I don't know. Probably. But if Collier was the best DE available, they should have drafted for a different position of need, like Secondary or O-line.
Exactly. That is what happens when you draft for need. Draft BPA and sign or trade for DE like they did. We don't even need Collier now.
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Re: Draft pick grades

Post by Donn Beach » Mon Nov 18, 2019 2:02 am

well, it seems to me a pretty strong pattern of doing it that way, trading down and then going for need with the first pick...

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Re: Draft pick grades

Post by D-train » Mon Nov 18, 2019 2:08 am

Donn Beach wrote:
Mon Nov 18, 2019 2:02 am
well, it seems to me a pretty strong pattern of doing it that way, trading down and then going for need with the first pick...
Exactly. Definition of insanity.
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Re: Draft pick grades

Post by Donn Beach » Mon Nov 18, 2019 2:10 am

but i think it works more than you give it credit for...

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Re: Draft pick grades

Post by D-train » Mon Nov 18, 2019 2:12 am

Donn Beach wrote:
Mon Nov 18, 2019 2:10 am
but i think it works more than you give it credit for...
It doesn't work. But hey there are very successful in spite of it so better than the alternative of great first round picks and shitty teams.
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