Good stuff from Bob and Jude

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Re: Good stuff from Bob and Jude

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Tue May 02, 2023 4:34 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Tue May 02, 2023 4:16 pm
Pete on Anthony Richardson
“We considered him,” Carroll said, via Michael-Shawn Dugar of TheAthletic.com. “Shoot, we flew all the way out there to go see him. Not just to see him but to be around him and watch him and how he handled himself, and his program with all the hype that was going. We gave him tremendous consideration. He might be the best athlete that’s ever been drafted at that position. He’s arguably that. So, we had to definitely consider that.”
Well, that clears things up. :?

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Re: Good stuff from Bob and Jude

Post by SeattleAddict » Tue May 02, 2023 4:38 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Tue May 02, 2023 4:16 pm
Pete on Anthony Richardson
“We considered him,” Carroll said, via Michael-Shawn Dugar of TheAthletic.com. “Shoot, we flew all the way out there to go see him. Not just to see him but to be around him and watch him and how he handled himself, and his program with all the hype that was going. We gave him tremendous consideration. He might be the best athlete that’s ever been drafted at that position. He’s arguably that. So, we had to definitely consider that.”
yep, classic Pete speak. State a bunch of facts without really saying anything. You have to check for what he DIDN'T say. He DIDN'T say "we loved him. We really wanted him. We tried to get him." You know, stuff he says about people he actually drafts. What he said about Mahomes and Allen, even.

Here's a trick: Take that quote and change the description to "Pete on Jalen Carter" and see how well it would fit. Would have to flip/flop "flew to see him" with "flew him up to Seattle to see him" but otherwise it'd line up... as it would with every top prospect.

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Re: Good stuff from Bob and Jude

Post by douche » Tue May 02, 2023 6:20 pm

It might sound overly simplistic, but Pete and John had certain players in mind (obviously). And if those players didn't fall to them, they merely went to Plan B. And Plan B wasn't terrible.

I also believe they view quarterbacks differently from other teams. The risk/reward ratio just isn't there for them in terms of drafting a first round QB. And for the most part, history would support that.

Schneider learned the game under Ron Wolf, and below are Wolf's 9 core stepping stones. It appears as though both Schneider and Carroll ascribe to most (if not all) of them:

1. Identify what needs to be fixed.
2. Hire the best - before anyone else does.
3. Develop an obsession with winning today.
4. Play to your strengths.
5. Use the four C's - Certain Devotion, Certain Dedication, Certain Work Ethic, Certain Results - to measure performance.
6. Making it work
7. Keeping it going
8. Handling the unexpected
9. Staying on top.

In addition, the Seahawks view scouting and drafting differently than the rest of the league, such as implicating measurements (with exceptions, of course), grading on their own team, and consistently signing obscure free agents. As it turns out, Wolf did the same thing with his 'no stone left un-turned' approach.

Wolf cautions against doing "quick-fixes" and sacrifice short-term gain in the long-term. Sometime a team finds itself in a situation where they could rush out to cash in on early success by signing a bunch of older, limited players in hopes of challenging sooner. But that approach contradicted Wolf's organizational philosophy. "As we worked constantly to improve through our Stepping Stone theories, we weren't about to add too many Band-Aids to our roster", stated Wolf.

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Re: Good stuff from Bob and Jude

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Tue May 02, 2023 6:26 pm

5. Use the four C's - Certain Devotion, Certain Dedication, Certain Work Ethic, Certain Results
:?

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Re: Good stuff from Bob and Jude

Post by SeattleAddict » Tue May 02, 2023 7:34 pm

Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Tue May 02, 2023 6:26 pm
5. Use the four C's - Certain Devotion, Certain Dedication, Certain Work Ethic, Certain Results
:?
:lol: :lol: my reaction too.

Why not call it "Redd" or maybe "Credd" or "Werdd"?

Actually, I like "WERDD". Think I'll copyright it.

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Re: Good stuff from Bob and Jude

Post by douche » Tue May 02, 2023 8:36 pm

Certain toughness could be another one.

By Bob Condotta
Seattle Times staff reporter
RENTON — The question appeared intended for coach Pete Carroll — what trait would you use to describe the Seahawks’ just-completed 10-man draft class?

But general manager John Schneider couldn’t help himself.

“I would say tough,” he answered, before apologizing for speaking over Carroll.

https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/sea ... next-step/

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Re: Good stuff from Bob and Jude

Post by D-train » Tue May 02, 2023 9:39 pm

Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Tue May 02, 2023 6:26 pm
5. Use the four C's - Certain Devotion, Certain Dedication, Certain Work Ethic, Certain Results
:?
Reminds my of my excel spreadsheet .xls Sex, Rock and Roll and Drugs lol
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