Hawks vs. the Little People GT

[Sibelius Hindemith]

Only 7 rush attempts by RBs in this game for Seattle. That is just staggering. What the hell was Grubb thinking?

[Donn Beach]

I think the bigger issue is the d lineman holding. They just missed that.

On the center? I don't think that was a hold, he didn't grab him he pushed him

[Donn Beach]

It was banned a few years ago but there seems to be exceptions, it's okay if you don't make contact with an offensive player or take a running start, neither of which he did

What is considered a running start? He took at least 2 steps before he leaped.

Needs to be stationary, and at the line of scrimmage, he looks stationary to me in that video. One foot comes off the ground then the other when he jumps

Running forward and leaping across the line of scrimmage in an obvious attempt to block a field goal or Try Kick, unless the player was in a stationary position on the line of scrimmage when the ball was snapped. A player who is behind the line of scrimmage before, or at the snap, may run forward and leap, provided he does not cross the line of scrimmage or land on players.

[Sibelius Hindemith]

A grim post-game podcast...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fMMkefpVRck

[Michael K.]

I think the bigger issue is the d lineman holding. They just missed that.

On the center? I don't think that was a hold, he didn't grab him he pushed him

So, pushing down on the Center while he is snapping is OK, you just can't hold him? Nice loop hole. The call would have been holding, and that was what Walter Jones was saying. He compared it to a DT holding the Guard so the Guard can't get out to block the LB. They missed it.

[Sibelius Hindemith]

I thought it was Tomlinson that got pushed down. Or was it both him and the center?

[Donn Beach]

Missed it? How could they miss it? The line judge is staring at it. The fact is they saw it and called it correctly. Yes, they get to push down. I can't see how it could be called holding when he's not holding him.

According to NFL officiating rules analyst Walt Anderson, who confirmed the rulings through an NFL spokesperson, both aspects of the play were, indeed, legal and unreviewable.

First, on the television broadcast of the game, CBS rules expert and former official Gene Steratore explained there was no foul on Simmons because he was lined up on the line of scrimmage and did not use anyone as loverage. Anderson confirmed that was true.

As for the contact with Stoll, Anderson said “pushing down alone is not a foul and there was no forcible contact to the head and neck.”

. Seahawks head coach Mike Macdonald took no issue with the play.

“There’s a guy in the A-gap, we need to block him,” Macdonald said. “So, it’s pretty much that simple, but you’re allowed to push down. They pushed down on our right guard and he wasn’t able to get to Simmons.”

And if Walter Jones has a problem with it sounds to me like he needs to brush up on the rules

Yeah, there it's the guard. I guess they pushed down on both of them. You get to push back, to the left or right, and you get to push down

[Michael K.]

I thought it was Tomlinson that got pushed down. Or was it both him and the center?

Seems it was legal. It is pretty dumb that the guy was lined up right there and we didn’t touch him. Fitting end to a real shitty game. I actually didn’t watch much of the 4th quarter. It was like last year all over. Shitty execution in offense resulting in little to no time of possession and a defense that looked completely disinterested until the other team got close to scoring. And even then was fucking putrid. Couldn’t tackle or cover!

The fucking Giants, one of the worst offenses in football, without their best receiver? Had the ball for fifteen more minutes than us! We should plan in getting our faces punched in until the injured defensive guys get back. Fucking Niners might run for 300 yards on us, and they are a below average football team right now.

[Captain 97]

It was banned a few years ago but there seems to be exceptions, it's okay if you don't make contact with an offensive player or take a running start, neither of which he did

What is considered a running start? He took at least 2 steps before he leaped.

Needs to be stationary, and at the line of scrimmage, he looks stationary to me in that video. One foot comes off the ground then the other when he jumps

Running forward and leaping across the line of scrimmage in an obvious attempt to block a field goal or Try Kick, unless the player was in a stationary position on the line of scrimmage when the ball was snapped. A player who is behind the line of scrimmage before, or at the snap, may run forward and leap, provided he does not cross the line of scrimmage or land on players.

The video in this link starts after the ball had already been snapped he was moving forward before the still shot in the thumbnail. watch the full video he was not stationary. He took a couple of steps before he leaped. I think it just comes down to a judgment call of weather he leaped over a lineman or if he went through a "gap" and just happened to get air born without actually going over a player.

[Donn Beach]

I thought it was Tomlinson that got pushed down. Or was it both him and the center?

Seems it was legal. It is pretty dumb that the guy was lined up right there and we didn’t touch him. Fitting end to a real shitty game. I actually didn’t watch much of the 4th quarter. It was like last year all over. Shitty execution in offense resulting in little to no time of possession and a defense that looked completely disinterested until the other team got close to scoring. And even then was fucking putrid. Couldn’t tackle or cover!

The fucking Giants, one of the worst offenses in football, without their best receiver? Had the ball for fifteen more minutes than us! We should plan in getting our faces punched in until the injured defensive guys get back. Fucking Niners might run for 300 yards on us, and they are a below average football team right now.

Yeah, for as much as you understand football I think you were being a little Seahawks biased. The Giants pulled off a good play. The Seahawks should have had a blocker on the guy that leaped and a center that fights through getting pushed down. If he had gotten bullrushed you wouldn't have any sympathy for him would you? It's not like he can't be touched while he's hiking the ball