Rumors about Geno extension

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Re: Rumors about Geno extension

Post by trharder » Mon Jan 23, 2023 3:38 am

Geno arguably played the 49ers better than Dak Prescott.

Dak Prescott signed a 4 year, $160,000,000 contract with the Dallas Cowboys, including a $66,000,000 signing bonus, $126,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $40,000,000. In 2023, Prescott will earn a base salary of $31,000,000, while carrying a cap hit of $49,130,000 and a dead cap value of $89,070,000.

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Re: Rumors about Geno extension

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Mon Jan 23, 2023 3:30 pm

If Geno wants Dak money or anything close then they need to send him on his way and draft a QB. You can't rebuild the D with that much cap space eaten up by one guy.

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Re: Rumors about Geno extension

Post by D-train » Mon Jan 23, 2023 3:37 pm

Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Mon Jan 23, 2023 3:30 pm
If Geno wants Dak money or anything close then they need to send him on his way and draft a QB. You can't rebuild the D with that much cap space eaten up by one guy.
Bob's grade. I thought he was the safe guy?
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Geno Smith was everything the Seahawks wanted, and at age 32 he should be able to play at that level for a few more years — maybe for as long as Pete Carroll, who turns 72 in September, wants to coach. Obviously, any quarterback wants to reduce turnovers, and Smith had 11 interceptions, which he’d admit were a few too many. Still, his 1.9% interception rate tied for 11th in the NFL with none other than Patrick Mahomes. The bigger knock on Smith might be his five fumbles lost, tied for third worst in the NFL. But it’s worth noting he’s behind Trevor Lawrence (nine) and Josh Allen (six) and before Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady (four each), illustrating that turnovers kind of come with the position. Still, that’s the big area to improve next season.

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Re: Rumors about Geno extension

Post by douche » Mon Jan 23, 2023 5:01 pm

trharder wrote:
Mon Jan 23, 2023 3:38 am
Geno arguably played the 49ers better than Dak Prescott.
Agreed.

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Re: Rumors about Geno extension

Post by trharder » Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:40 pm

Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Mon Jan 23, 2023 3:30 pm
If Geno wants Dak money or anything close then they need to send him on his way and draft a QB. You can't rebuild the D with that much cap space eaten up by one guy.
I tend to agree.
I doubt NFL teams decide to pay a QB good money because he sucked slightly less than another guy
that just got a good contract, but it was close to an apples to apples comparison.
It likely means the Cowboys paid too much for Dak. It doesn't mean the Seahawks should pay Geno the same. IMO.

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Re: Rumors about Geno extension

Post by Gametime » Mon Jan 23, 2023 11:53 pm

trharder wrote:
Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:40 pm
Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Mon Jan 23, 2023 3:30 pm
If Geno wants Dak money or anything close then they need to send him on his way and draft a QB. You can't rebuild the D with that much cap space eaten up by one guy.
I tend to agree.
I doubt NFL teams decide to pay a QB good money because he sucked slightly less than another guy
that just got a good contract, but it was close to an apples to apples comparison.
It likely means the Cowboys paid too much for Dak. It doesn't mean the Seahawks should pay Geno the same. IMO.
No thanks on big money. We aren’t close enough to win it all with the current roster and 30+ for Geno.

Here is what I see as cap space before FA and the draft and cutting 6 players.

42 players signed
55 million cap space

CUT:

Harris
Jackson
Mone
Jefferson
Ben Burr-kirven
Joey Hunt

If we keep Jefferson it’s 51 million.

If we franchise take all 32 out of this cap. So 23 million for free agents and draft picks.

Diggs can be cut or restructured. If we cut we save 10 million zero savings if cutting Adams.

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Re: Rumors about Geno extension

Post by D-train » Tue Jan 24, 2023 11:36 am

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Re: Rumors about Geno extension

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:03 pm

Just ask yourself how many SBs would the Seahawks have gone to if they had had to pay RW top-7 QB money in 2012 instead of rookie contract money? Would have been a lot tougher.

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Re: Rumors about Geno extension

Post by Michael K. » Tue Jan 24, 2023 5:35 pm

douche wrote:
Mon Jan 23, 2023 5:01 pm
trharder wrote:
Mon Jan 23, 2023 3:38 am
Geno arguably played the 49ers better than Dak Prescott.
Agreed.
Not in week 2. I would say that facing a team three times might give him a bit of an edge. And if you grade it by quarters? He sucked for four quarters early in the season, had about one and a half good quarters at the end of the season and two good quarters in the playoffs. So, 3.5 out of 12? Decent, but? If Prescott gets 8 more quarters, is he not going to out perform that? I think the way Geno finished the season may not have cost him money, but it might have cost him money here. Someone is going to pay him, but we watched first hand how we went from 6 and 3 to 9 and 8. How we lost to every team in the worst division in football. How we got outscored 10 to fucking 3 in the second half against Atlanta to lose. 22 to 13 to the Saints in the second half to lose, how coming off the best stretch of football we've played in some time we scored 3 points over the first three quarters against Tampa, turned the ball over on the first two possessions to lose to Carolina, had six points in the first three quarters against the Niners, needed a last minute TD to beat a Rams team missing everyone, scored 3 points in the first 3 quarters against the Chiefs, and needed a FG in OT to score 19 against the Rams the next time.

Read that again, and then think if this really is the SAFE play that everyone wants us to believe. Geno had a decent year, but in games we lost, and there were almost as many of those as we won, he was pretty bad in many of them. Especially for stretches. The Consistency that everyone claims we had? Sorry, wasn't there, and Geno was not consistent. Hell, in the first win against the Cards he was 20 of 31 for less than 200 yards and no TDs. He greatly outperformed what I had expected, but I am not so sure he was as great as many say. Add to the above that he was terrible in the second half against Denver, and he had some stretches of bad football where the offense was real bad.

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