Seahawks' Free Agent Tracker
- Donn Beach
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I don't know about the last decade but it seems pretty similar to last season but that was Grubb and his Oline coach that was going to fix things.
I don't think it should change his draft plans though the plan seems to have changed since they missed on their FA targets. In fact I think it indicates they are going all in on the draft. It makes sense to me to look for your veteran lineman after the draft if you are committed to drafting a stud guard.
I'm actually hopeful, I think there were coaching issues last season. It was a mistake bringing in a pair of college coaches. One or the other maybe but both, there was such a lack of experience of the NFL game. I was dubious about it. If they have the coaching fixed I think the line could improve. We shall see, I'm giving MM another season to fix things, a solid three rookie coaches
I don't think it should change his draft plans though the plan seems to have changed since they missed on their FA targets. In fact I think it indicates they are going all in on the draft. It makes sense to me to look for your veteran lineman after the draft if you are committed to drafting a stud guard.
I'm actually hopeful, I think there were coaching issues last season. It was a mistake bringing in a pair of college coaches. One or the other maybe but both, there was such a lack of experience of the NFL game. I was dubious about it. If they have the coaching fixed I think the line could improve. We shall see, I'm giving MM another season to fix things, a solid three rookie coaches
- Sibelius Hindemith
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I hope you're right. If JS really wants to "go for it" like he claims he is every year then you have to get a LG that can contribute at a high level from day one, and that's not likely to come from another team's practice squad or whatever. I don't have a problem with them wanting to develop and get the most out of the young guys they added last year, but let them do that in garbage time and practices, not in games they need to win.
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- Donn Beach
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JS seemed to be going after a veteran difference maker when they were after Will Fries, that seemed an unusual target for JS. Now the narrative seems to have changed but there's nothing about it that indicates it being plan b. That's why I think an equivalent move is drafting a guy that should be a contributor from the beginning, not a developmental piece. But I still think it's day two
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Hopefully early day 2, otherwise it's just more of the same. If he doesn't want to pay interior OL then he'd better make it a draft priority.
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1000%. A young and mobile Russ and the best back in Franchise History in Beastmode covered a shit ton of warts early, the LOB dominated, and Schneider became incredibly arrogant. I've said it before, but it reminds me of when the 2001 Mariners decided that was the only model that works. No Griffey, no A Rod, no Randy....and that was all they then knew. Remind me how many playoffs we've made since then?Sibelius Hindemith wrote: ↑Tue Apr 01, 2025 11:36 amSo he's going with the same plan that has resulted in a decade of terrible O lines? Just add another Blythe, Jackson or Tomlinson type of talent that couldn't start for another team and ta-daah! Hopefully he's just saying that to disguise his draft intentions from other GMs.
These fuckers are so arrogant they refuse to change because that would be admitting mistakes. So the Mariners fire hitting coaches and the Seahawks fire OCs. It's like both Front Offices went to the same school of giving the local fans and media something shiny to look at while they continue to do the same tired old shit that doesn't work.
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Jesus effing Christ. Yep, LAST year was when the Offensive Line woes started. Have you been watching this organization for the past fifteen years?Donn Beach wrote: ↑Tue Apr 01, 2025 1:34 pm
I'm actually hopeful, I think there were coaching issues last season. It was a mistake bringing in a pair of college coaches. One or the other maybe but both, there was such a lack of experience of the NFL game. I was dubious about it. If they have the coaching fixed I think the line could improve. We shall see, I'm giving MM another season to fix things, a solid three rookie coaches
- Donn Beach
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The fact is there were issues with| how Grubb ran his offense, for instance his reliance on shotgun formation. I'm ever hopeful, they get a more balanced offense, get some development with the younger players, get a ringer in the draft, they might be decent, one can hope
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You realize Grubb only coached last year right? When is the last time the Hawks were even above average on the O Line? I'll give you a hint, it wasn't all that recently, and it sure as shit wasn't the year before Grubb got here. The common denominator with Hawks and Shitty O Lines is Schneider. You are buying into the fucking excuses like the local media. Apathy of the fans and media turns into apathy of the Organization. All they have to do is fire an assistant or two and the entire off season is spent by lap dog media members and start struck fans talking about how great things will be. Then wash, rinse repeat all over the next off season.Donn Beach wrote: ↑Tue Apr 01, 2025 7:02 pmThe fact is there were issues with| how Grubb ran his offense, for instance his reliance on shotgun formation. I'm ever hopeful, they get a more balanced offense, get some development with the younger players, get a ringer in the draft, they might be decent, one can hope
I'm done with it. I don't believe a fucking word out of Schneider's mouth until he proves otherwise. Our O Line will suck balls, like it always does, because he is afraid to admit he fucked up.
- Donn Beach
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It has nothing to do with JS, I'm talking about Grubbs methods. You can certainly complain about some of JS's methods. I have, particularly his inability to create some continuity with the line. But those things are compounded if the OC lacks a real understanding of NFL offenses. It was probably more NFL defenses, what he was up against. The two gp hand in hand. He admitted it himself, he really wasn't familiar with NFL defenses
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“Ultimately (teams need) an offensive coordinator that understands what your issues are up front. And I say this all the time – and I don’t know your guys’ coordinator, I know he came from the college game – but you show me a team that gives up seven sacks, I’ll show you a team that has a coordinator that doesn’t understand what the problems are up front,” Schlereth said.
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What I am saying is you are blind if you think it's the OC, but you are playing directly into JS's plan. They Fired Bates, Bevell, Schotty, Waldron and Grubb. Which on of those firings fixed the O Line? I'm pretty sure you could read articles after each on of those firings about how the next guy was going to solve the problem. Why didn't it? Because Schneider is the problem. Tell me which of the above firings ended up fixing our O Line issues? I'll wait.Donn Beach wrote: ↑Tue Apr 01, 2025 7:27 pmIt has nothing to do with JS, I'm talking about Grubbs methods. You can certainly complain about some of JS's methods. I have, particularly his inability to create some continuity with the line. But those things are compounded if the OC lacks a real understanding of NFL offenses. It was probably more NFL defenses, what he was up against. The two gp hand in hand. He admitted it himself, he really wasn't familiar with NFL defenses
Mark schlereth“Ultimately (teams need) an offensive coordinator that understands what your issues are up front. And I say this all the time – and I don’t know your guys’ coordinator, I know he came from the college game – but you show me a team that gives up seven sacks, I’ll show you a team that has a coordinator that doesn’t understand what the problems are up front,” Schlereth said.
I like Stink, but if you listen to him talk, no O Lineman is bad, it's just a bad scheme. I call bullshit.