auroraave wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 7:11 pm
Rashaad Penny led the nation in rushing in 2017. Nick Chubb didn't even crack the top 20.
Penny was a consensus All American - Chubb was not even nominated.
To even suggest Penny was a bad pick when comparing the two side by side is laughable. in 2017, Penny had over 2,200 yards, including nearly 400 against Stanford and ASU. MWC player of the year, both on offense and special teams.
IS anyone aware of any of this? Of course not. Whereas Chubb is indeed a solid running back, no question, and Penny is no hero to me, comparing the two based on their college careers, and factoring in Penny was never injured his entire career, and saying it was a bad pick, simply is not a reasonable position. This is the info Seattle had when they picked him. It was a completely reasonable pick - for a team that had no RB's left.
People can lament his professional injuries, and embrace Chubb's NFL career, but the opposing trajectories were not data anyone had to crunch. The available data favored Penny. The only arguments anyone seems to make, are in hindsight. Unfortunately, no one has that ability on draft day. That's why it's called risk.
The second fallacy, is that Chubb would replicate his Cleveland production in Seattle. That is a completely false assumption. People can cling to that, but it is not a position of strength to argue from. Different coaches, different scheme, different personnel, different field, different weather, different playing surface, different division, different competition. The list of variables goes on and on. To believe Chubb duplicates his Cleveland production, or never having any injuries, despite Seattle RB's long history of injuries, as a basis for Penny being a bad pick is simply not a logical assumption. No rational mind would ever accept that.
Being mad at Penny for getting injured, also does not make it a bad pick. It was a good pick, a logical pick. All the complaints are based on hindsight and false assumptions of duplicate production. Theoretically, Chubb could exceed that production, roughly have the same, or have less. You cannot assume anything about what Chubb's production in Seattle would be. What if he tore an ACL on day one - would the same people be bitching about how they shoulda drafted Penny? Probably.
The arguments against Penny are emotional, not logical. An All American running back who led the nation in rushing, was 5th in the Heisman voting, and had no history of injuries, getting drafted by a team who's entire RB room was decimated by injuries, is not an illogical pick. Yeah, the injuries suck, but that doesn't make it the wrong pick - just bad luck - the same luck every single team faces with every single pick.