Shit storm on Twitter about Abe Lucus' opinions

[Donn Beach]

They are not men

Namibian track and field stars Christine Mboma and Beatrice Masilingi - both aged 18 - have turned in four of the top five women's 400m times in the world this year.

They were on a fast-track to Olympic medals, but then their stellar rise came to a sudden halt.

The pair have been banned from competing in the women's 400m race at the Tokyo Games. The reasoning: their natural testosterone levels are too high

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-57748135

[Millikin]

It has nothing to do with Lia Thomas claiming to be a woman. Thomas is following the rules as they have been written by the NCAA. Its about hormone levels and that's it

Thomas is a seriously deranged narcissist no matter what the rules are.

Even if he got his testosterone levels to female levels, he's still a fucking dude who spent his whole life building dude-sized muscles with dude levels of testosterone.

[Sibelius Hindemith]

A member of the University of Pennsylvania women’s swim team said some team members are uncomfortable changing in the locker room with transgender swimmer Lia Thomas, according to a teammate.

Thomas, 22, who spent the previous three years swimming with the men’s team before she began transitioning to a woman, has created an uneasy environment in the locker room, as she still retains her biologically male genitalia — which are sometimes exposed — and is attracted to women, one teammate told the Daily Mail in an interview.

“It’s definitely awkward because Lia still has male body parts and is still attracted to women,” the swimmer said. Thomas has reportedly told her teammates that she dates women.

The swimmer told the outlet that other team members have spoken to the team’s coaches about possibly getting Thomas to change elsewhere from the rest of the team, but those discussions haven’t gone anywhere."

https://nypost.com/2022/01/27/teammates ... ia-thomas/

[Sibelius Hindemith]

A former University of Kentucky swimmer claims transgender swimmer Lia Thomas 'dropped her pants' and exposed 'male genitalia' in the women's locker room at a meet last year.

Riley Gaines, 23, claimed female swimmers were not 'forewarned beforehand that we would be sharing a locker room with Lia.'

'We did not give our consent, they did not ask for our consent,' Gaines told Fox News' America Reports. 'In that locker room, we turned around and there’s a 6’4" biological man dropping his pants and watching us undress, and we were exposed to male genitalia.'

'Not even probably a year, two years ago, this would have been considered some form of sexual assault, voyeurism. But now not even are they just allowing it to happen, it’s almost as if these large organizations are encouraging it to happen,' Gaines said.

'That to me was worse than the competition piece.'

Gaines, who is a spokesperson for the Independent Women's Forum, said the NCAA failed to protect women and their sports and that they have celebrated transgender athletes.

'The NCAA then nominated Thomas for NCAA Woman of the Year, so we [they] are celebrating this movement,' she told America Reports. 'This is not something that happened by chance on a one-off basis. They are encouraging [biological] men to compete in women’s sports.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -room.html

[D-train]

A former University of Kentucky swimmer claims transgender swimmer Lia Thomas 'dropped her pants' and exposed 'male genitalia' in the women's locker room at a meet last year.

Riley Gaines, 23, claimed female swimmers were not 'forewarned beforehand that we would be sharing a locker room with Lia.'

'We did not give our consent, they did not ask for our consent,' Gaines told Fox News' America Reports. 'In that locker room, we turned around and there’s a 6’4" biological man dropping his pants and watching us undress, and we were exposed to male genitalia.'

'Not even probably a year, two years ago, this would have been considered some form of sexual assault, voyeurism. But now not even are they just allowing it to happen, it’s almost as if these large organizations are encouraging it to happen,' Gaines said.

'That to me was worse than the competition piece.'

Gaines, who is a spokesperson for the Independent Women's Forum, said the NCAA failed to protect women and their sports and that they have celebrated transgender athletes.

'The NCAA then nominated Thomas for NCAA Woman of the Year, so we [they] are celebrating this movement,' she told America Reports. 'This is not something that happened by chance on a one-off basis. They are encouraging [biological] men to compete in women’s sports.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -room.html

And these mentally ill people think they are enlightened progressive and just smarter than anyone that disagrees with them.

[auroraave]

A former University of Kentucky swimmer claims transgender swimmer Lia Thomas 'dropped her pants' and exposed 'male genitalia' in the women's locker room at a meet last year.

Riley Gaines, 23, claimed female swimmers were not 'forewarned beforehand that we would be sharing a locker room with Lia.'

'We did not give our consent, they did not ask for our consent,' Gaines told Fox News' America Reports. 'In that locker room, we turned around and there’s a 6’4" biological man dropping his pants and watching us undress, and we were exposed to male genitalia.'

'Not even probably a year, two years ago, this would have been considered some form of sexual assault, voyeurism. But now not even are they just allowing it to happen, it’s almost as if these large organizations are encouraging it to happen,' Gaines said.

'That to me was worse than the competition piece.'

Gaines, who is a spokesperson for the Independent Women's Forum, said the NCAA failed to protect women and their sports and that they have celebrated transgender athletes.

'The NCAA then nominated Thomas for NCAA Woman of the Year, so we [they] are celebrating this movement,' she told America Reports. 'This is not something that happened by chance on a one-off basis. They are encouraging [biological] men to compete in women’s sports.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -room.html

And these mentally ill people think they are enlightened progressive and just smarter than anyone that disagrees with them.

I'm not so sure these people think they are enlightened as much as I thinkl they are looking for any platform to either gain support and/or a fan base or they are just trying to find a cause to further their own careers by exploiting whatever the latest trend is.

Bigger question - isn't 'transgender' a post-op designation? Technically, donlt you have to go throught the 'transition' surgery process to be a transgender person? Otherwise - isn't it just cross dressing? That's what I donlt understand. If the dude got his junk lopped off and went full woman mode - that's one thing - but to maintain all the male reproductive organs which automatically manufacture higher levels of testosterone than any woman can produce - thus giving you an advantage - that would seem to me to be the main issue - it's clearly an advantage. There needs to be legal language addressing what transgender is. Otherwise - how is this just not called cross dressing? Any good lawyer should be starting there. Then let's see how many 'men' afre willing to put their money where thier mouth is. Wanna compete with the women? Off come your balls.

[Donn Beach]

They don't have higher levels of testosterone, that's the point.

[auroraave]

They don't have higher levels of testosterone, that's the point.

Uh, men have significantly higher levels of testosterone naturally. If they are taking female hormones that can reduce it - but are these "men' being tested regularly to ensure that the testosterone levels are lower and estrogen levels are on par with a biological female? All a dude would have to do is stop taking estrogen and his testosterone levels would go right back up. As long as you have male reproductive organs you are producing a much higher level than any women unless you have a medical condition or are old - and those with either are not competing at an elite level.

[Sibelius Hindemith]

They don't have higher levels of testosterone, that's the point.

They don't on one day 4 weeks prior to the competition. But even if they maintain that low level, they are still likely at an advantage due to developed characteristics of their body under the influence of male hormones unless they were on blockers prior to puberty. Isn't that fairly obvious by the fact that Lia Thomas went from being a mediocre men's collegiate swimmer to an elite women's collegiate swimmer?

[Donn Beach]

No it's not obvious to me, and I really don't care to bother with it anymore other than to point out it's based on testosterone levels and not penises. As pointed out by the women that are barred from competition because of their higher levels