Next Franchise QB

[Bil522]

That's an AI response but it's how I understood it

Sam Darnold is the starting quarterback for the Minnesota Vikings, and J.J. McCarthy is the backup. Darnold was originally expected to be a backup for the Vikings in 2024, but became the starter after McCarthy's preseason debut was ended by a torn meniscus. Darnold's strong performance led the Vikings to a playoff appearance and earned him Pro Bowl honors

It really was not an AI response....here is video of a roundtable talking about Darnold being the starting QB for the 2024 season back in May before JJ's injury.

https://www.vikings.com/video/rapoport- ... ob-in-2024

[Donn Beach]

That's an AI response but it's how I understood it

Sam Darnold is the starting quarterback for the Minnesota Vikings, and J.J. McCarthy is the backup. Darnold was originally expected to be a backup for the Vikings in 2024, but became the starter after McCarthy's preseason debut was ended by a torn meniscus. Darnold's strong performance led the Vikings to a playoff appearance and earned him Pro Bowl honors

It really was not an AI response....here is video of a roundtable talking about Darnold being the starting QB for the 2024 season back in May before JJ's injury.

https://www.vikings.com/video/rapoport- ... ob-in-2024

You think I was lying?

https://www.google.com/search?q=Darnold ... e&ie=UTF-8

[Michael K.]

Interesting take.

Yeah, as good as last year's Husky O Line was, I am curious how much of that was Penix? Seemed we didn't run the ball with as much ease as I would expect from the team with "the best O Line in College Football".

Dillon Johnson had 1195yds on 233 carries. That was in 14 games but he missed about 2 full games and was playing hurt most of the season. The Huskies rushed for 1778 yds and that was with Pennix rushing 35 times for +8 yds

You are pulling out stats. There were several times we needed to shorten the game, go mano e mano, and couldn't control the line of scrimmage. Had some great games, for sure. Also, DJ was pretty damn good when healthy. A good O Line can make other backs productive as well. Besides DJ having issue at time closing out games, I feel his back ups really struggled.

You can pull all the stats you want, and I'm not going to deny you that the O Line was good, and that DJ had a great year. But there were many times when he wanted to just line up and run the ball, and we struggled. Not a huge shot at the O Line...it's hard to run when they know you are running. But when I think of dominating O Lines? I remember those Michigan teams that just lined up and ran right at you. When Harbaugh was at Stanford? They'd bring in an extra couple of lineman, point at the hole, and still gain positive yards. I didn't see that out of Washington last year.

But? Since you love stats? here are some more stats for you. DJ averaged
1.7 per carry against Boise St.
0.8 against Arizona St
3.9 against Washington St
2.3 against Texas
3.0 against Michigan

Do you think the best O Line in the game has their lead back gain 182 yards on 68 carries in those five games? That's less than 2.7 yards per carry in 36% of his team's games. And THAT is with what is arguably the best passing attack in the land. It should have been much easier to run the ball.

[D-train]

What are we talking sandlot? A NFL QB that has to wait for a receiver to get open before he throws him the ball?

That seems to be Geno's MO give how long he holds the ball sometimes.

[maoling]

I'm keeping Geno for next year, and restructuring him for another year after that, mutual option for a third year.

He knows the system, the organization, he is the face of a 10-win team this year that survived with a new coaching staff that is still transitioning to less diversity and woke to something less PC.

He throws a pretty ball almost always, and if he could avoid throwing that pretty ball for a critical redzone pick, ran a little more for free yards and didn't have the worst hair since Buckwheat, I would be all in with a new-improved Geno not getting sacked in a collapsing pocket and OL that gets prison-raped so often you'd think they would begin to like it.

MM is a shark, he cut and traded starters, canned an OC they hired in one year. Historians will note beloved Pete got the boot a scant year before. It's always been Machiavellian in a Paul org, and his sis wants W's and value. Gotta believe JS is hot seat for next year.

[trharder]

I'm keeping Geno for next year, and restructuring him for another year after that, mutual option for a third year.
He knows the system, the organization, he is the face of a 10-win team this year that survived with a new coaching staff that is still transitioning to less diversity and woke to something less PC.
He throws a pretty ball almost always, and if he could avoid throwing that pretty ball for a critical redzone pick, ran a little more for free yards and didn't have the worst hair since Buckwheat, I would be all in with a new-improved Geno not getting sacked in a collapsing pocket and OL that gets prison-raped so often you'd think they would begin to like it.

MM had an awkward interview with Brock and Salk today. He was asked if Smith would be the Seahawks’ starter next season. “Got no reason to say no, so I guess yeah,” Macdonald replied. Maybe MM was just sick of Salk's BS questions, or is he
sick of Geno's agent? As decisively as he axed Grubb, it's not much of a stretch to wonder if Geno is what he envisions
for the Seahawks offense. The best part of having Geno as the starter for the last 3 years was the contract.
Geno is not bad. I admit that. But I think what we saw from Geno this year was his ceiling. If the defense takes
another full step forward, maybe Geno is enough.

[57reasons]

I'm keeping Geno for next year, and restructuring him for another year after that, mutual option for a third year.
He knows the system, the organization, he is the face of a 10-win team this year that survived with a new coaching staff that is still transitioning to less diversity and woke to something less PC.
He throws a pretty ball almost always, and if he could avoid throwing that pretty ball for a critical redzone pick, ran a little more for free yards and didn't have the worst hair since Buckwheat, I would be all in with a new-improved Geno not getting sacked in a collapsing pocket and OL that gets prison-raped so often you'd think they would begin to like it.

MM had an awkward interview with Brock and Salk today. He was asked if Smith would be the Seahawks’ starter next season. “Got no reason to say no, so I guess yeah,” Macdonald replied. Maybe MM was just sick of Salk's BS questions, or is he
sick of Geno's agent? As decisively as he axed Grubb, it's not much of a stretch to wonder if Geno is what he envisions
for the Seahawks offense. The best part of having Geno as the starter for the last 3 years was the contract.
Geno is not bad. I admit that. But I think what we saw from Geno this year was his ceiling. If the defense takes
another full step forward, maybe Geno is enough.

The trouble with Geno, other than the interceptions and too-frequent failure to throw the ball away to avoid a sack, is his decision-making and missing open receivers. That may be the hardest job of a QB, but it is what all the elites excel at. Too late in his career to expect that will greatly improve, so the ceiling is well below elite. And to win this league you either have to have an elite QB, or an absolutely stacked roster like the Eagles and NIners of the past few years (and note, even they fell short to Mahomes).

[maoling]

I want a QB who will run, and I'm not sure Geno unplugged can't gain free yards, because his legs are not as old as his football age, but we saw it this year how he is one crushing injury from done.

[trharder]

I want a QB who will run, and I'm not sure Geno unplugged can't gain free yards, because his legs are not as old as his football age, but we saw it this year how he is one crushing injury from done.

Me too.
Lets not forget who the QB is for MM's old team the Ravens is.
Geno can run. He had one perfectly executed read option in this last Rams game. He just doesn't make it part
of his game for the most part. Geno would rather be Manning than Lamar. He'll never be either, of course.

[Donn Beach]

Geno is too aggressive, he's also saddled with carrying the offense. Yeah, they need more running but it doesn't have to be Geno that does it. And they don't need to get a RB either. They need to get the tools they have balanced properly