Darnold Signs with Seattle

[auroraave]

I look at his role as a "game manager" for several reasons.
He's not coming here to throw the ball 40 times a game. That's not what is needed - this is going to be a defense-built team first - at least for now. SO the offense needs to be safe and sound - that likely includes a heavier dose of running. Seattle's receiver room is thin at the moment - it would be utterly ridiculous to expect an aerial assault - and no matter what - it won't be as good as Minnesota's was last year. Seattle does not have an elite tight end threat either. Both those rooms need to be ungraded for a high level passing attack - and that's before we even address the interior oline - which I am sure will get attention in the draft. I am not questioning or judging Darnold's skill set - he's a vet and can play the game. His necessary skill set, IMO, for this team, at this moment, is to understand the offense and run it effectively, minimize turnovers, plenty of play action type stuff. This will not be flashy - but it doesn't need to be. Risk reduction and execution. The defense will give us a chance - the offense just needs to not fuck it up - that's where they are at this point in time - obviously this analysis is pre draft. Not sure why anyone would be offended by that, but so be it. I also expect them to get another RB in the draft at a minimum for depth and maybe even a fullback type. Run the ball, play action, keep the opposing offense off the field, rely on the defense. That's what I expect will happen. As the offense grows, so will the playbook.

[maoling]

I hate to be dark about this, but it really doesn't matter who our QB is anymore, because he is going to get sacked anyway. It's just the way we do things around here.

One cool stat though, if it is true, I read that Sudden Sam Darnold generally gets rid of the ball in 2.6 seconds, but Geno spends a full three seconds before he gets sacked or throws an ugly red zone pick. Maybe we give Sam the .4 seconds before he gets road-graded, and we don't suck next year.

[Donn Beach]

They don't need to become run heavy, they need to be more balanced. Far as I know that would be the answer. The thing about pass blocking is it's passive, your retreating trying to protect the QB. Run blocking on the other hand let's you hit somebody, be aggressive. Maybe that's what they need more of

They didn't get rid of the OC, QB and WR and replace him with what they have because they plan on being balanced. It's going to be run heavy. Defense gets to sit on the sidelines and rest. That is complementary football. You never hear about the Defense giving up fast scoring drives and that isn't complementary. Complementary is what Defensive guys use to bitch about pass heavy offenses.

So what would a run heavy offense be as opposed to a balanced? Are there teams now that are run heavy? When was the last time the Seahawks ran a run heavy offense

[douche]

I hate to be dark about this, but it really doesn't matter who our QB is anymore, because he is going to get sacked anyway. It's just the way we do things around here.

Agreed.

[Michael K.]

So what would a run heavy offense be as opposed to a balanced? Are there teams now that are run heavy? When was the last time the Seahawks ran a run heavy offense

There are definitely not many that are run heavy, but again...you believe they let go of who they let go of this year, you watched what they have done if free agency, and don't see a HEAVY lean towards defense and run game? McDonald wants his defense sitting on the sidelines cooling their jets. It's every defensive coaches wet dream. Get ready for Pete 2.0, were we run draws and dump offs on third down to play field position, and we milk the clock all the way ensuring that we can't audible. The defense better be a shit ton better than last year for this to work.

I really don't care next year, because this team needs a step back. But I am not excited for the brand of offensive football that Mike M. seems to want to employ. The NFL is all about CYA now, and MIkey can do that by making sure his defense is on the sidelines as often as possible. If they lose, but he can blame the offense? He keeps his job longer.

Google Complementary football. The first article talks about how the Patriots scored, and it started with a punt. THEY PUNTED. Of course, the article is like 8 years old, because this shit is outdated, but what ever.

What is complementary football? The question is sometimes asked and yet it isn't always answered.

So here is one example:

How the Patriots scored their first touchdown Sunday was a result of complementary football. It started with a punt early in the second quarter

Ryan Allen's punt was a good one, with Jeremy Kerley calling for a fair catch at the Jets' 8-yard line.

https://www.espn.com/blog/new-england-p ... y-football

The problem is? In order to do that, you had to be punting after a few firsts down, and you then need to get a stop after. In today's game, slanted towards offenses, that isn't as easy as it once was. A big reason we have had very limited success in the playoffs, or even reaching the playoffs, without the LOB. That special Defense masked a lot of warts. Lynch and Russ masked warts up front. This FO got lazy. Much like the Mariners, they took some success and became arrogant enough to believe they could do it that way forever. The rest of the league adapted. Then we did, Russ looked like an MVP, the Hawks weren't comfortable, so we are what we are now. Middle of the road blah.

I don't see Mike's brand of complementary football working. Why? Our O Line has always been dogshit, so until I see that change? I have zero faith that we can sustain drives the way he wants us to. Grubb didn't think so either, which is why we threw the ball all the time. Grubb's gone, so if the next guy wants to keep his job? He'll run on third and six because a punt with the clock running is better than an incomplete pass when you are actually trying to get a first down. THAT is a defensive coaches version of Complementary Football. It's only one year, but Mike is showing me exactly why before he was hired? I was bullish on the offensive minded guys, not Grampa Defense.

Again, I made the list a year ago. Look at the DC's of the bright young Offensive Minded HCs. Compare that to the boring old retread "run the damn ball" grampa's the defensive guys get. Jeremy BevellSchottydren. That is what we have always had and apparently always will have. OCs that want to keep their jobs, so they will run on third down, settle for punts and FGs because that is safe and lets the almighty defense rest.

[douche]

Google Complementary football. The first article talks about how the Patriots scored, and it started with a punt. THEY PUNTED.

Found this:

"Iowa Hawkeyes head coach Kirk Ferentz, who served under Belichick as his offensive line coach with the Cleveland Browns from 1993 to 1996, is a similarly long-term proponent of the theory.

Ferentz is on record as being "[appreciative] for how punters can affect and impact the game"; an example of Ferentz's application and understanding of the strategy within the special teams realm."

Based on this logic, shouldn't we be winning more games with Dickson?

[Sibelius Hindemith]

Based on this logic, shouldn't we be winning more games with Dickson?

We probably are.

[Michael K.]

Based on this logic, shouldn't we be winning more games with Dickson?

We probably are.

Haha, without Dickson we'd be missing the playoffs by two games instead of one.

[trharder]

Random thoughts after skimming this thread.
We'd be extremely lucky if 3 years from now we can refer to Darnold as our "game manager" QB.
It would mean the rest of the team was so good we didn't need him to do much.

Donn Beach's "balanced offense" has nothing to do with the theory of "complimentary football".

Kirk Ferentz is a shit college coach. I seriously doubt any college coach has had as many future
NFL players on his team without making a run at a national title as Ferentz.

[Donn Beach]

JS struck a pretty good deal with the Darnold contract.

In other words, if Darnold is unable to duplicate his 2024 performance and regresses back to the lower-tier quarterback he has been for the majority of his career, the Seahawks could release him in the week after Super Bowl LX — assuming he is healthy — and not owe him any additional money or carry any dead salary cap money in future seasons.

It makes the contract a one-year deal with two option years for the Seahawks.

That is relatively low-risk business for the Seahawks. Which is also probably smart business for them.

https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles ... 2_41913371