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These are the three secondary units. Try not to be biased based on recency and team success.

1.1981-1985 Keith Simpson, Dave Brown, Terry Taylor, Kerry Justin, John Harris, Kenny Easley

2.1989-1993 Dwayne Harper, Patrick Hunter, Melvin Jenkins, Nesby Glasgow, Robert Blackmon, Eugene Robinson

3. 2011-2015 Brandon Browner, Richard Sherman, Byron Maxwell, DeShawn Shead, Kam Chancellor, Earl Thomas

I picked 312 but i think it's a lot closer than most of you think it is. Of course it's all relative and the LOB played in a different era so you have to compare what each group did in comparison to other teams during the time period that they played in. It might be useful though to rank the players position by position from when they were at their best within that time period.

FS: Earl Thomas > Eugene Robinson > John Harris
SS: Kenny Easley > Kam Chancellor > Robert Blackmon
CB1: Richard Sherman > Dave Brown > Patrick Hunter
CB2: Dwayne Harper > Keith Simpson > Brandon Browner
CB3: Melvin Jenkins > Byron Maxwell > Kerry Justin

I picked 3 1 2 as well, and I like the way you rated that. But the way I looked at it, the big 3 in the LOB could have easily all been the best to play their position in a Seahawk's jersey. I think you have FS and SS mixed up, but to be honest? I feel that I remember Easley playing some FS, not just SS. I could be wrong, but as good as Easley was? No one was better than Earl....Dave Brown is great, but not Sherm great, and Kam changed the game.

I thought Easley was both also but Profootballreference lists him only as a SS on the roster pages for individual seasons. I'm not sure there was much difference between FS and SS in the defensive systems they were using back then, although i was pretty clueless at that time regarding schemes (actually still am). He was a big dude, though. 6'3" and listed at 208 lbs but i'd bet he was more like 215-220 later in his career.

You're right, i had FS and SS reversed in that post.

Also, i guess i voted 3,2,1. Could have sworn i voted 3,1,2. I was wavering between 1 and 2. My heart is with the earlier group but then i considered that the middle group was part of the NFL-best D in 1992 (the season with Gelbaugh/Stouffer where they scored 140 points) and it wasn't just Tez that made them great.

think it absolutely has to be 3, 1, 2 and i dont think it close between any of the three, but especially a massive gap from LOB to any other group. Sure Easley was very good for too short a time, and Harris had a long career with a lot of INTs, but LOB led the league in points against for 3, almost 4 years running, in the same era in which the passing game was at its absolute zenith. they should always be a top contender in the convo for best NFL defense ever given that factor, and the secondary was the leader and head of that D.

Group 3 is legendary, solid, athletic and brutal.
I think some folks here are young enough to not know what an Easley or a Brown is but Group 1 was the glue that held the whole team together many games.

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Tue Apr 08, 2025 4:31 am

think it absolutely has to be 3, 1, 2 and i dont think it close between any of the three, but especially a massive gap from LOB to any other group. Sure Easley was very good for too short a time, and Harris had a long career with a lot of INTs, but LOB led the league in points against for 3, almost 4 years running, in the same era in which the passing game was at its absolute zenith. they should always be a top contender in the convo for best NFL defense ever given that factor, and the secondary was the leader and head of that D.

The entire D was stacked those years. Heck, Bennett and Avril were back-ups in 2013. Wagner and Wright were better than any LBs on those other units. Personally i'd rather have Easley than Chancellor because he got INTs as well as the big hits.

I am still trying to figure out how Fred Young came and went so quickly- He was Pre/Lob and delivered -