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For each draft pick, predict the following:

1) how many games will they start in
2) how many snaps will they get (list O, D and ST separately)
3) what will their PFF season grade be

Grey Zabel, Round 1 (18) North Dakota State, OL
Nick Emmanwori, Round 2 (35) South Carolina, S
Elijah Arroyo, Round 2 (50) Miami (FL), TE
Jalen Milroe, Round 3 (92) Alabama, QB
Rylie Mills, Round 5 (142) Notre Dame, DL
Tory Horton, Round 5 (166) Colorado State, WR
Robbie Ouzts, Round 5 (175) Alabama, TE
Bryce Cabeldue, Round 6 (192) Kansas, T
Damien Martinez, Round 7 (223) Miami (FL), RB
Mason Richman, Round 7 (234) Iowa, OL
Ricky White, Round 7 (238) UNLV, WR

Scores will be determined this way:

A = actual number of games started
B = predicted number of games started
C = actual number of O and/or D snaps
D = predicted number of O and/or D snaps
E = actual number of ST snaps
F = predicted number of ST snaps
G = actual PFF season grade
H = predicted PFF season grade
abs = absolute value
S(p) = score of an individual player

W = abs(A - B)
X = abs(C - D)
Y = abs(E - F)
Z = abs(G - H)

S(p) = 10·W + X + Y + 5·Z

Your total score will be the sum of your scores for each player. Low score wins.

The contest prize amount will be determined as follows...

5-6 entries - $50
7-9 entries - $75
10+ entries - $100

Entries must be submitted by May 31 (i.e. before 12:00 am Sunday June 1st).

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Donn Beach wrote: ↑

Thu May 22, 2025 4:56 pm

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Well, actually i'm pretty confident there won't be more than 6 entries. Might not be three the way this forum has been going lately.

Here, i'll get things started. These picks are subject to change prior to the deadline.

Grey Zabel: 12 starts, 753 O/D snaps, 0 ST snaps, 67 PFF
Nick Emmanwori: 9 starts, 522 D snaps, 126 ST snaps, 65 PFF
Elijah Arroyo: 6 starts, 389 O/D snaps, 57 ST snaps, 71 PFF
Jalen Milroe: 0 starts, 53 O/D snaps, 0 ST snaps, 78 PFF
Rylie Mills: 0 starts, 146 O/D snaps, 0 ST snaps, 63 PFF
Tory Horton: 3 starts, 264 O/D snaps, 30 ST snaps, 63 PFF
Robbie Ouzts: 7 starts, 324 O/D snaps, 177 ST snaps, 58 PFF
Bryce Cabeldue: 2 starts, 173 O/D snaps, 47 ST snaps, 62 PFF
Damien Martinez: 3 starts, 151 O/D snaps, 68 ST snaps, 76 PFF
Mason Richman: 0 starts, 0 O/D snaps, 29 ST snaps, 51 PFF
Ricky White: 0 starts, 0 O/D snaps, 0 ST snaps, no PFF grade

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e2M5DdyKzqw&t=54s

Grey Zabel: 16 starts, 1158 O/D snaps, ST snaps, 77 PFF
Nick Emmanwori: 3 starts, 672 D snaps, 126 ST snaps, 71PFF
Elijah Arroyo: 2 starts, 498 O/D snaps, 57 ST snaps, 66 PFF
Jalen Milroe: 0 starts, 61 O/D snaps, 0 ST snaps, 81 PFF
Rylie Mills: 0 starts, 0 O/D snaps, 0 ST snaps, 0 PFF
Tory Horton: 0 starts, 189 O/D snaps, 78 ST snaps, 62 PFF
Robbie Ouzts: 2 starts, 586 O/D snaps, 81 ST snaps, 58 PFF
Bryce Cabeldue: 0 starts, 64 O/D snaps, 67ST snaps, 56 PFF
Damien Martinez: 0 starts, 29 O/D snaps, 43 ST snaps, 76 PFF
Mason Richman: 0 starts, 0 O/D snaps, 0 ST snaps, 0 PFF
Ricky White: 0 starts, 0 O/D snaps, 0 ST snaps, 0 PFF

First time ever projecting these, so here's a wild stab:

Zabel 15 starts, 916 O snaps, 0 ST snaps, PFF 64.1
Emmanwori 3 starts, 652 snaps, 59 ST snaps, PFF 55.6
Arroyo 10 starts, 602 snaps, 12 ST snaps, PFF 70.5
Milroe 0 starts, 95 snaps, 3 ST snaps, PFF 53.9
Mills 0 starts, 0 snaps, 0 ST snaps, PFF N/A
Horton 0 starts, 165 snaps, 73 ST snaps, PFF 70.6
Ouzts 2 starts, 135 snaps, 144 ST snaps, PFF 78.9
Cabeldue 0 starts, 31 snaps, 25 ST snaps, PFF 51.5
Martinez 0 starts, 44 snaps, 20 ST snaps, PFF 58.4
Richmon 0 starts, 36 snaps, 8 ST snaps, PFF 44.8
White 0 starts, 0 snaps, 0 ST snaps, PFF N/A

Snaps are all on Offense (zero defense) for Zabel, Arroyo, Milroe, Horton, Ouzts, Cabeldue, Martinez, Richmon and White.
Likewise all on Defense (zero offense) for Emmanwori.

Interesting, you both then feel that Riley Mills will miss the entire season from the knee injury?

My very uneducated guess. I may do a little more research and change this, but I doubt it.

Grey Zabel: 13 starts, 770 O/D snaps, 0 ST snaps, 62 PFF
Nick Emmanwori: 7 starts, 515 D snaps, 111 ST snaps, 66 PFF
Elijah Arroyo: 8 starts, 345 O/D snaps, 57 ST snaps, 63 PFF
Jalen Milroe: 2 starts, 151 O/D snaps, 0 ST snaps, 68 PFF
Rylie Mills: 0 starts, 66 O/D snaps, 0 ST snaps, 59 PFF
Tory Horton: 5 starts, 255 O/D snaps, 26 ST snaps, 67 PFF
Robbie Ouzts: 2 starts, 252 O/D snaps, 170 ST snaps, 60 PFF
Bryce Cabeldue: 1 starts, 136 O/D snaps, 65 ST snaps, 60 PFF
Damien Martinez: 3 starts, 225 O/D snaps, 75 ST snaps, 73 PFF
Mason Richman: 0 starts, 0 O/D snaps, 75 ST snaps, 54 PFF
Ricky White: 0 starts, 0 O/D snaps, 0 ST snaps, no PFF grade

Some of this could be wishful thinking.

I'd like to see more of Martinez than Charbonnet when K9 is rested or hurt.
I hope MIlroe will get some action even when Darnold isn't hurt, but don't see Darnold going the entire season without missing a start or two due to injury. And then? It will probably be Locke anyway, so not sure why I made that prediction.
I don't see Kupp playing an entire season and have big hopes for Horton.