Are we about to lose Ryan Neal?
I would get rid of Jamal Adams before Neal.
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Cash-strapped move: the #Seahawks need a nose tackle/interior defensive lineman more than a vibey, hard-working, depth safety
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The Seahawks have withdrawn the restricted free agent tender from S Ryan Neal, making him a free agent and eligible to sign with any team.
He stepped up for the team with a career season in 2022, posting 66 tackles and 8 passes defensed.
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Re: Ryan Neal
noooooooooo
his RFA deal was like $2 million, basically nothing - one game check for either of our other safeties, and he's almost as good.
Makes no sense from a "cash-strapped" position as it saves almost nothing. Almost makes sense after signing Love - would only REALLY make sense if maybe Neal requested they do it and they were doing him a solid.
I don't understand the move at all - Neal was one of the best bargains on the team.
his RFA deal was like $2 million, basically nothing - one game check for either of our other safeties, and he's almost as good.
Makes no sense from a "cash-strapped" position as it saves almost nothing. Almost makes sense after signing Love - would only REALLY make sense if maybe Neal requested they do it and they were doing him a solid.
I don't understand the move at all - Neal was one of the best bargains on the team.
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Yup, baffled as well, and it makes sense that the only reason they are doing it is at Neal's request.SeattleAddict wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 11:19 pmnoooooooooo
his RFA deal was like $2 million, basically nothing - one game check for either of our other safeties, and he's almost as good.
Makes no sense from a "cash-strapped" position as it saves almost nothing. Almost makes sense after signing Love - would only REALLY make sense if maybe Neal requested they do it and they were doing him a solid.
I don't understand the move at all - Neal was one of the best bargains on the team.
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Re: Ryan Neal
Asinine. He was their top-rated defender last year according to PFF. What the hell are they doing?
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Donn Beach
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Re: Ryan Neal
It was $2.6 mil and thats not chump change when you're up against the salary cap, they also would have had to match an offer. You guys wanted them spending money in FA and they have.
The Seahawks assigned Neal the low RFA tender earlier this month, which meant a one-year offer for $2.627 million and secured their right to match any offer sheet that he might sign with another team. But their depth chart and salary cap picture have since changed.
The Seahawks signed former New York Giants starter Julian Love to a two-year, $12 million deal, bolstering their safety depth behind Jamal Adams and Quandre Diggs with a player they didn't expect to be available at that price.
The Love signing was one example of how Seattle has been more aggressive in free agency this year than normal. The team's other significant moves include a three-year, $51.53 million splurge on defensive tackle Dre'Mont Jones and, most recently, a reunion with linebacker Bobby Wagner on a one-year, $5.5 million deal.
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Re: Ryan Neal
As Brady Henderson of ESPN reports, the Seahawks will now likely make a move to beef up its defensive line, which was a weak area of the team last season.
“My read: This is combination of the Seahawks feeling really good about their safety depth and wanting to add more D-linemen but being tight against the cap,” Henderson said on Friday, March 31. “They’ll free up the $2.627M that Neal was counting on the cap and could still bring him back depending on his market.”
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Re: Ryan Neal
It's a very deep Safety class. People are sleeping on this group. I think it’s deep, rich and talented. It’s not full of other-worldly athletes but it is full of bad ass football players. I can see why Seattle released Ryan Neal from his tender. They can save money drafting one of these guys in the round 3-5 range. It’s also a class full of alpha’s with outstanding character. If you go and listen to them all speak in interviews, it’s very impressive. JL Skinner, Sydney Brown, Ji’Ayir Brown, Jammie Robinson, DeMarcco Hellams, Jordan Howden, Jerrick Reed are all players I've watched tape and been wowed with their maturity, confidence and focus during interviews. It’d be a shame to come out of this draft not picking from the position. There’s a lot of talent here.Donn Beach wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 4:38 amAs Brady Henderson of ESPN reports, the Seahawks will now likely make a move to beef up its defensive line, which was a weak area of the team last season.
“My read: This is combination of the Seahawks feeling really good about their safety depth and wanting to add more D-linemen but being tight against the cap,” Henderson said on Friday, March 31. “They’ll free up the $2.627M that Neal was counting on the cap and could still bring him back depending on his market.”
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Gregg Bell
Mon, April 3, 2023 at 10:15 a.m. MDT
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Why the Seahawks changed their minds, pulled their offer to Ryan Neal: It’s a Love thing
Pete Carroll loves Ryan Neal.
But that wasn’t enough to keep Julian Love from taking Neal’s job in Seattle.
The Seahawks this past weekend made a cold business move. They withdrew the qualifying offer they had made last month to Neal as a restricted free agent. The move makes the five-year veteran safety an unrestricted free agent available to sign with any team, instead of having a $2.67 million deal to stay with Seattle for the 2023 season.
The Seahawks rescinded their offer to Neal two weeks to the day after they signed Love as an unrestricted free agent from the Giants. A captain for New York last season, Love got a two-year deal worth up to $12 million to be Seattle’s new third safety with Pro Bowl veterans Quandre Diggs and Jamal Adams.
That used to be Neal’s job.
The money they gave Love and the newest Seahawk’s versatility won out in Carroll’s ongoing overhaul of Seattle’s defense.
Love is two years younger than the 27-year-old Neal. The Giants selected Love in the fourth round of the 2019 NFL draft. Since then he’s played as a deep safety in coverage, a strong safety against the run and a nickel defensive back inside against slot receivers when New York went to a fifth defensive back.
He started 16 games at safety for the Giants last season.
Carroll said last week at the NFL meetings the Seahawks’ plan for 2023 is to do what they were going to do with Diggs, Adams and Neal in 2022: Play three safeties at the same time, a lot — with Adams almost more a linebacker playing near the line of scrimmage as a pass rusher and to stop the run.
Adams tore his quadriceps tendon in the first half of the first game last September, blitzing in on Denver quarterback Russell Wilson. That made Neal the starting strong safety next to Diggs, playing for Adams the rest of last season. Carroll never got to employ his three-safety plan over the final 17 1/2 games of the season.
“I know there’s some conversation about what we did with Julian, does that have some impact on Jamal or Quandre? It doesn’t,” Carroll told reporters last week in Phoenix. “It doesn’t. We have a clear thought of what we’re going to do with our guys and how we want to play them, and we feel very fortunate to have all of our guys.”
Asked if the plan is to have Love, Diggs and Adams play together in 2023, Carroll said, “Oh yeah, absolutely. That’s what I’m saying.”
Maybe 25% of the defensive snaps?
“Oh no,” Carroll said. “They’ll play together a lot more than that.”
That made Neal expendable, even though Carroll loved how he went from formerly waived by Atlanta to scrapping onto Seattle’s special teams to a valued starter. Neal routinely made key tackles on third downs to get the Seahawks defense off the field the last two seasons.
“The opportunity to get Julian, who’s a remarkable player — he had a remarkable season last year. I can’t remember a guy who played over a thousand snaps and played over 200 snaps on special, as well. That’s an unusual mix,” Carroll said last week at the league meetings. “That’s just one aspect of what Julian brings.
“He’s a really versatile football player. He called their defenses; he had the green dot (on his helmet, denoting communications with the coaches through a helmet speaker). He’s a captain.
“It’s a very rare opportunity to get a guy like that, so we jumped at it. He can do a lot of things. He was a very dynamic player in their system, he did everything, from the front to the back. He’s a really good deep-end player, but he fits into the running the game and pressuring and all of those things. He’s a really complete football player. And also, the smarts that he brings, the leadership that he brings, he’s going to be a really good addition.”
It didn’t help Neal that he said in January he needed knee surgery this offseason. He called it a clean-up procedure. He played the final months of the 2022 season through knee pain.
Mon, April 3, 2023 at 10:15 a.m. MDT
The News Tribune
Why the Seahawks changed their minds, pulled their offer to Ryan Neal: It’s a Love thing
Pete Carroll loves Ryan Neal.
But that wasn’t enough to keep Julian Love from taking Neal’s job in Seattle.
The Seahawks this past weekend made a cold business move. They withdrew the qualifying offer they had made last month to Neal as a restricted free agent. The move makes the five-year veteran safety an unrestricted free agent available to sign with any team, instead of having a $2.67 million deal to stay with Seattle for the 2023 season.
The Seahawks rescinded their offer to Neal two weeks to the day after they signed Love as an unrestricted free agent from the Giants. A captain for New York last season, Love got a two-year deal worth up to $12 million to be Seattle’s new third safety with Pro Bowl veterans Quandre Diggs and Jamal Adams.
That used to be Neal’s job.
The money they gave Love and the newest Seahawk’s versatility won out in Carroll’s ongoing overhaul of Seattle’s defense.
Love is two years younger than the 27-year-old Neal. The Giants selected Love in the fourth round of the 2019 NFL draft. Since then he’s played as a deep safety in coverage, a strong safety against the run and a nickel defensive back inside against slot receivers when New York went to a fifth defensive back.
He started 16 games at safety for the Giants last season.
Carroll said last week at the NFL meetings the Seahawks’ plan for 2023 is to do what they were going to do with Diggs, Adams and Neal in 2022: Play three safeties at the same time, a lot — with Adams almost more a linebacker playing near the line of scrimmage as a pass rusher and to stop the run.
Adams tore his quadriceps tendon in the first half of the first game last September, blitzing in on Denver quarterback Russell Wilson. That made Neal the starting strong safety next to Diggs, playing for Adams the rest of last season. Carroll never got to employ his three-safety plan over the final 17 1/2 games of the season.
“I know there’s some conversation about what we did with Julian, does that have some impact on Jamal or Quandre? It doesn’t,” Carroll told reporters last week in Phoenix. “It doesn’t. We have a clear thought of what we’re going to do with our guys and how we want to play them, and we feel very fortunate to have all of our guys.”
Asked if the plan is to have Love, Diggs and Adams play together in 2023, Carroll said, “Oh yeah, absolutely. That’s what I’m saying.”
Maybe 25% of the defensive snaps?
“Oh no,” Carroll said. “They’ll play together a lot more than that.”
That made Neal expendable, even though Carroll loved how he went from formerly waived by Atlanta to scrapping onto Seattle’s special teams to a valued starter. Neal routinely made key tackles on third downs to get the Seahawks defense off the field the last two seasons.
“The opportunity to get Julian, who’s a remarkable player — he had a remarkable season last year. I can’t remember a guy who played over a thousand snaps and played over 200 snaps on special, as well. That’s an unusual mix,” Carroll said last week at the league meetings. “That’s just one aspect of what Julian brings.
“He’s a really versatile football player. He called their defenses; he had the green dot (on his helmet, denoting communications with the coaches through a helmet speaker). He’s a captain.
“It’s a very rare opportunity to get a guy like that, so we jumped at it. He can do a lot of things. He was a very dynamic player in their system, he did everything, from the front to the back. He’s a really good deep-end player, but he fits into the running the game and pressuring and all of those things. He’s a really complete football player. And also, the smarts that he brings, the leadership that he brings, he’s going to be a really good addition.”
It didn’t help Neal that he said in January he needed knee surgery this offseason. He called it a clean-up procedure. He played the final months of the 2022 season through knee pain.
Re: Ryan Neal
Okay, so that does have me fire up about Love, but in no way explains why we wouldn't keep Neal on what seemed cheap.
You would have to be close to insane to think Adams, Diggs and Love will all be healthy next year for the bulk of the season.
We are drafting a safety. Almost guaranteed.
Prediction - we will see Neal starting for some team deep in the playoffs next year.
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Re: Ryan Neal
They are up against the cap, they are not going to budget $2.6 mil for a safety depth piece. A drafted player be more like $750,000