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Sexymarinersfan wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 31, 2023 9:24 pm

I might have jumped the gun when I said Arizona would never trade with a division rival. Well there's new news developing. I'd be more than happy with this! Then we could pick or choose between Levis and Richardson at 3! Oh happy days!

http://seahawksdraftblog.com/

I’ve got my notes on Anthony Richardson’s pro-day coming up but first I wanted to reflect on speculation provided by two separate reporters.

Firstly, Vic Tafur of ‘the Athletic’ posted this in his report from the NFL owners meeting:

But the buzz at Monday night’s NFL party, with owners, general managers, coaches, agents and reporters hitting the open bar, was that all four quarterbacks will be long gone by the time the Raiders pick at No. 7.

That’s relevant assuming the Raiders aren’t blowing smoke and are really interested in the four quarterbacks — given that they just gave Garoppolo $33.75 million guaranteed and a 6-11 team should probably keep all its draft picks rather than try and trade up.

The buzz is that the Seahawks will jump up from No. 5 to No. 3 to grab either Richardson or Levis, as Stroud and Young are expected to go 1-2. The Cardinals can move down to No, 5 and still get the top defensive player, as the Colts are expected to also draft a QB at No. 4.

It’s perhaps telling that Michael-Shawn Dugar, the Seahawks reporter for ‘the Athletic’, also wrote an article titled, ‘Seahawks’ interest in top QBs is no smokescreen‘:

Seattle knows that picking this high in the draft again is unlikely. Since 2011, Seattle’s average native first-round slot has been in the 20s. The Seahawks rarely (if ever) have 20 prospects with first-round grades, which is why they’ve so often traded back in the first round or traded out of the round entirely. Schneider’s history of trading down in the first round has contributed to the belief that the Seahawks’ interest in the top quarterbacks is a ruse. But there’s a notable difference between picking No. 5 and pick No. 25, so Seattle’s previous draft strategies aren’t necessarily applicable this year.

Further evidence Seattle isn’t bluffing about possibly selecting a quarterback: Carroll has already relayed to Smith that it’s legitimately on the table.

Clearly, it seems, there was a theme at the league meeting — accurate or not — that Seattle is in the QB market in this draft.

Friend of the blog Tony Pauline added to this yesterday, reporting:

Speculation from league insiders during Florida’s pro day is the Seattle Seahawks could be the team that leapfrogs the Indianapolis Colts and trades up with the Arizona Cardinals to secure Richardson. Several reasons were given.

The cost to move up won’t be much for the Seahawks, who have another first-round pick — the 20th selection.

Additionally, the general manager and coach who draft Richardson have to be on safe footing. Even Russell Wilson couldn’t get Pete Carroll and John Schneider fired. Finally, Richardson is the type of freaky athlete that the Seahawks have drafted in the past and had success with — think Tariq Woolen and DK Metcalf.

What should we make of all this?

When I listened to Carroll speak candidly to Steve Wyche about drafting a quarterback (see below) it really convinced me that they were prepared to take one. This didn’t feel like a great ruse. It felt like a coach laying out a situation, almost preparing everyone for a possibility:

D-train wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 31, 2023 11:12 pm

Sexymarinersfan wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 31, 2023 9:24 pm

I might have jumped the gun when I said Arizona would never trade with a division rival. Well there's new news developing. I'd be more than happy with this! Then we could pick or choose between Levis and Richardson at 3! Oh happy days!

http://seahawksdraftblog.com/

I’ve got my notes on Anthony Richardson’s pro-day coming up but first I wanted to reflect on speculation provided by two separate reporters.

Firstly, Vic Tafur of ‘the Athletic’ posted this in his report from the NFL owners meeting:

But the buzz at Monday night’s NFL party, with owners, general managers, coaches, agents and reporters hitting the open bar, was that all four quarterbacks will be long gone by the time the Raiders pick at No. 7.

That’s relevant assuming the Raiders aren’t blowing smoke and are really interested in the four quarterbacks — given that they just gave Garoppolo $33.75 million guaranteed and a 6-11 team should probably keep all its draft picks rather than try and trade up.

The buzz is that the Seahawks will jump up from No. 5 to No. 3 to grab either Richardson or Levis, as Stroud and Young are expected to go 1-2. The Cardinals can move down to No, 5 and still get the top defensive player, as the Colts are expected to also draft a QB at No. 4.

It’s perhaps telling that Michael-Shawn Dugar, the Seahawks reporter for ‘the Athletic’, also wrote an article titled, ‘Seahawks’ interest in top QBs is no smokescreen‘:

Seattle knows that picking this high in the draft again is unlikely. Since 2011, Seattle’s average native first-round slot has been in the 20s. The Seahawks rarely (if ever) have 20 prospects with first-round grades, which is why they’ve so often traded back in the first round or traded out of the round entirely. Schneider’s history of trading down in the first round has contributed to the belief that the Seahawks’ interest in the top quarterbacks is a ruse. But there’s a notable difference between picking No. 5 and pick No. 25, so Seattle’s previous draft strategies aren’t necessarily applicable this year.

Further evidence Seattle isn’t bluffing about possibly selecting a quarterback: Carroll has already relayed to Smith that it’s legitimately on the table.

Clearly, it seems, there was a theme at the league meeting — accurate or not — that Seattle is in the QB market in this draft.

Friend of the blog Tony Pauline added to this yesterday, reporting:

Speculation from league insiders during Florida’s pro day is the Seattle Seahawks could be the team that leapfrogs the Indianapolis Colts and trades up with the Arizona Cardinals to secure Richardson. Several reasons were given.

The cost to move up won’t be much for the Seahawks, who have another first-round pick — the 20th selection.

Additionally, the general manager and coach who draft Richardson have to be on safe footing. Even Russell Wilson couldn’t get Pete Carroll and John Schneider fired. Finally, Richardson is the type of freaky athlete that the Seahawks have drafted in the past and had success with — think Tariq Woolen and DK Metcalf.

What should we make of all this?

When I listened to Carroll speak candidly to Steve Wyche about drafting a quarterback (see below) it really convinced me that they were prepared to take one. This didn’t feel like a great ruse. It felt like a coach laying out a situation, almost preparing everyone for a possibility:

Brother come on. The thread title suggests its a done deal. Rob Staton is not a legit source for this type of "News"

Sexymarinersfan wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 31, 2023 11:28 pm

It's more legit than any Seahawks source that's on the web.

SeattleAddict wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 31, 2023 11:58 pm

Sexymarinersfan wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 31, 2023 11:28 pm

It's more legit than any Seahawks source that's on the web.

Bruh. Come on.

Just because Staton is your guy, doesn't mean he's the end-all of Seahawks info. Besides, this article is literally one reporter reporting what two other reporters said that they heard from somebody else.

It is all literally the exact same buzz as last year, when everybody was saying the Seahawks would surely take Malik Willis. Nobody knows what they'll actually do, but one thing we all should have learned is that whatever it is, it will NOT be what reporters think they'll do. JS/PC are playing 3D chess and reporters aren't even playing checkers. Fuckin' tiddliwinks. Just throwing out 1000 possibilities hoping that one of them will be right so they can say "see, I was right!", ignoring the 999 times they were completely wrong.

Now, I'm not saying the whole thing isn't discussion-worthy, but it's hogwash.

Sexymarinersfan wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 01, 2023 12:08 am

I think they stay put, but I don't think its out of this realm that the Hawks have at least had discussions about moving up. And I am high on Staton, but he's not the end all. I just happen to agree in this situation.

And Seattle was NEVER going to take Willis. He was a one-trick pony. One read and go. I was never high on him like I have been on these four.

I trust Tony Pauline over Staton. Pauline's big boards have been more accurate than anyone's over the last 5 years. And Tony's got Jalen Carter ranked #1 on his big board. This happens to be a scenario where Tony and I agree to disagree. Just like you and I. I don't bear any ill will or malcontent. I enjoy our conversations. We just happen to have to very differing views on this particular topic.

SeattleAddict wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 01, 2023 12:42 am

Sexymarinersfan wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 01, 2023 12:08 am

I think they stay put, but I don't think its out of this realm that the Hawks have at least had discussions about moving up. And I am high on Staton, but he's not the end all. I just happen to agree in this situation.

And Seattle was NEVER going to take Willis. He was a one-trick pony. One read and go. I was never high on him like I have been on these four.

I trust Tony Pauline over Staton. Pauline's big boards have been more accurate than anyone's over the last 5 years. And Tony's got Jalen Carter ranked #1 on his big board. This happens to be a scenario where Tony and I agree to disagree. Just like you and I. I don't bear any ill will or malcontent. I enjoy our conversations. We just happen to have to very differing views on this particular topic.

I respect your opinions, and you were more right than anybody here last year about the draft. I know you do a lot of research so your comments have merit. I also respect that you can take criticism of your opinions, considering they differ so much from my own (on the Richardson and drafting a QB thing anyway). Neither of us will be swayed I don't think... but it will make it interesting when we look back a year from now (and a little bit in a month).

I believe Jalen Carter is the best non-QB football player out there... I just wish he wasn't such a very serious risk on the non-football side of things. I'm not a fan of taking red-flags with football players attached, but it's such a position of need, and football-wise it'd be such a nice fit. Sucks. On the flip side, I watched some interviews with Anderson, and I LOVE that kid. He seems like somebody that is motivated, will work hard AND has elite talent.

If the Seahawks took a QB at 5, I would be disappointed and surprised, but not shocked. If they think there's a guy worthy of that pick, I trust them... but I don't think there is. If they traded UP to draft one? I would be shocked. Floored. Dumbfounded. Unless maybe Carolina took Richardson, Houston took Young, then suddenly CJ Stroud was there at 3... then things could get interesting. Still don't think it would happen, but he's the one guy I wouldn't be mad about taking that high.

I kinda still think it'll be Carter, Anderson, or trade back depending on how 1-4 shakes out.