Salk on PC

[D-train]

As you guys know I am not a Salk fan at all but this is a thorough well balanced piece.

https://sports.mynorthwest.com/1766514/ ... tradeoffs/

[D-train]

So if this is the case why the conservative bend don't break defensive scheme that past few seasons???

Discipline isn’t usually the calling card of a Carroll-coached team, but Pete seems willing to sacrifice it in order to get his guys to play with their hair on fire. He wants them more concerned with going full speed than making a mistake. And while the downside of that is clear to see in the moment (penalties, mistakes, etc.), the upside more than balances it out.

[douche]

You should have posted that link in the other thread... 'Is it time for Pete Carroll to hit the road?'

[D-train]

You should have posted that link in the other thread... 'Is it time for Pete Carroll to hit the road?'

Hey pal I am the Moderator here so I will allow it! lol Yes, probably should have but if that is my worst mistake this week I will call it a success.

[Michael K.]

So if this is the case why the conservative bend don't break defensive scheme that past few seasons???

Discipline isn’t usually the calling card of a Carroll-coached team, but Pete seems willing to sacrifice it in order to get his guys to play with their hair on fire. He wants them more concerned with going full speed than making a mistake. And while the downside of that is clear to see in the moment (penalties, mistakes, etc.), the upside more than balances it out.

It's not the case, not at all. All of his defenses have been conservative, don't give up the big play, don't take risks. It's just that the LOB was able to mug receivers on the back end and they had CBs that were great at it. They had one of the best ball hawking sideline to sideline CF type FS to play since Ed Reed in Earl Thomas, they had a LB that was sideline to sideline tackling machine in Bobby, and they had a deep rotation of pass rushers that could get it done without blitzing. They played vanilla, base defense...and survived because the game was called differently and because they had a uniquely talented and hungry bunch of defenders. They also changed the way the game is called, IMO. Real football fans loved watching us punch Manning and the Donkeys in the face...I don't think the NFL did.

[douche]

The 'hair-on-fire' comment reminds me of the SB win. Those players were fierce, completely dialed in.

Particularly the defensive players.

[Michael K.]

The 'hair-on-fire' comment reminds me of the SB win. Those players were fierce, completely dialed in.

Particularly the defensive players.

But the scheme was vanilla. Basically a 4 - 3 defense that played nickel on third down. But they had BEASTS up front that they rotated in to rush the passer, they had Kam knocking the shit out of anything that dared come over the middle and they had Sherman taking away half the field. That was the same scheme we had a few years ago when Buffalo threw for like 500 yards on us. It's like Jimmy Lake being so smart. Sure, when you have Greg Gaines, Danny Shelton and Veta Vea? You can play a three man front, load of up DBs and still survive. Fast forward a few years and he is the dumbest mother fucker to ever coach a defense, playing a fucking 3 - 2 against Stanford and Colorado and watching them pick up 6 yards a carry.

Everyone looks smart when they have studs. The difference is? Pete adapted last year. I just wonder about him trusting Hurt. It's not working. BUT, it is the same vanilla bullshit. Off coverage, no blitzing, just keep everyone in front of you. That resulted in the Rams having long drive after long drive. Yet another game were Bobby Wagner made 50 tackles, and we forced no punts after the second drive of the fucking game. It's fucking gross. FUCKING CHALLENGE SOMEONE FOR ONCE!

I just can't imagine Riq changed his name so he could all of a sudden just watch dudes catch passes in front of him. But it sure seems that way. Or, they just didn't throw the ball last year on us because they didn't have to?

[Donn Beach]

So if this is the case why the conservative bend don't break defensive scheme that past few seasons???

Discipline isn’t usually the calling card of a Carroll-coached team, but Pete seems willing to sacrifice it in order to get his guys to play with their hair on fire. He wants them more concerned with going full speed than making a mistake. And while the downside of that is clear to see in the moment (penalties, mistakes, etc.), the upside more than balances it out.

Seems to me, Pete hates mistakes, mistakes lead to explosive plays

[Michael K.]

So if this is the case why the conservative bend don't break defensive scheme that past few seasons???

Discipline isn’t usually the calling card of a Carroll-coached team, but Pete seems willing to sacrifice it in order to get his guys to play with their hair on fire. He wants them more concerned with going full speed than making a mistake. And while the downside of that is clear to see in the moment (penalties, mistakes, etc.), the upside more than balances it out.

Seems to me, Pete hates mistakes, mistakes lead to explosive plays

Give ma a fucking break. And 9 minute drives lead to losses. Name the last explosive play that killed us? Then, when you can't...go back and watch us lose in the death by 1,000 cuts style last year to Carolina, Tampa Bay, New Orleans, Atlanta, the Raiders, the 49ers three times and now the Rams. Yeah, I think his philosophy of being afraid of the big play, but guaranteeing his offense never gets the ball, AND HE GIVES UP POINTS ANYWAY, only slower? Has been proven to be fucking dogshit for a few years now.

[Donn Beach]

From last season...it wasn't death by a thousand cuts, it was big chunks

When Seattle won the Super Bowl in 2013 with one of the greatest defenses in league history, the Seahawks allowed 82 explosive plays over the 16-game regular season.

Four games into 2022, the Seahawks have already allowed half that many (41) including 12 against the Lions. Seattle also allowed 11 each to Atlanta and Denver and seven to the 49ers.

“What’s happening is the explosive plays are affecting drives as they always do,” Carroll said. “You have an explosive play, the odds of scoring points goes way up. And really, that’s the big concern right now.”

But solving that problem isn’t so easy.

Carroll said there was no one culprit Sunday as the Lions marched up and down the field, with seven plays of 21 yards or longer including an 81-yard catch-and-run by tight end T.J. Hockenson that was the longest play Seattle has allowed since Carroll took over as coach in 2010.

“It’s not any one thing,” Carroll said. “It’s not the coverage that we’re playing or the style of stuff [the Seahawks are playing] or any of that. We just have to execute better and not give up the yardage we’re giving up