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Ranking the coaching staffs

Post by Donn Beach » Sat Aug 24, 2024 10:26 am

The writer begins this piece of clickbait by admitting its a dumb idea. Ranks the seahawks staff 26. I thought his write up was kinda interesting so here it is
26. Seattle Seahawks
Head coach: Mike Macdonald
Offensive coordinator: Ryan Grubb
Defensive coordinator: Aden Durde

Of all the staffs with first-time head coaches, Seattle's is the one I have the most interest in. Macdonald has the goods. He's a renowned communicator and teacher, which is why he can get such a complex, disguise-heavy defense on the field when other NFL coaches struggle to sustain such a system. And that system is perfect for combatting the current meta of league offenses: rushers coming from all angles, but no all-out blitzes for elite quarterbacks to burn. He needs good defensive players to make it all work -- the Seahawks don't have that just yet -- but I believe in his defensive acumen even if this season likely will have some big growing pains.

I really love Macdonald's coordinator decisions. He did not just hire guys he knows, but rather grabbed Aden Durde from Dallas, the schematic polar opposite to Macdonald's defense in Baltimore. What can Durde -- a Middlesex, England, native who was an NFL quality control coach as recently as 2019 -- bring from Dan Quinn's defense and integrate into Macdonald's scheme? I don't know, but the cross-pollination should be interesting.

Similarly, Grubb is a total unknown at the NFL level -- hasn't coached a day in the pros. I tend to be hesitant around career college guys making the NFL leap, but Grubb had a pretty pro-style offense at Washington with a diverse running game, full-field passing concepts and deep drops. Under Grubb, the Huskies hunted easy gains with RPOs and deep downfield when they got clear one-on-ones -- those are two things that are much, much harder to do in the pros than in the college ranks. So, again: I expect growing pains, but don't be surprised if this offense is pretty good at running the football early.
https://www.espn.ph/nfl/insider/story/_ ... s-2024#SEA

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Post by D-train » Sat Aug 24, 2024 2:23 pm

I would much rather have a college OC that led a prolific offense that made the NC game than an NFL Quarterbacks coach like Waldron was.

So the guy has nothing but good things to say and then ranks the 26th. :|
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Post by Donn Beach » Sat Aug 24, 2024 2:56 pm

Waldron at PFF was ranked as the NFLs 6th best offensive coordinator

https://www.sportsmockery.com/chicago-b ... rdinators/

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Post by D-train » Sun Aug 25, 2024 3:42 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Sat Aug 24, 2024 2:56 pm
Waldron at PFF was ranked as the NFLs 6th best offensive coordinator

https://www.sportsmockery.com/chicago-b ... rdinators/
Maybe he will be this season since he won't have to call plays from Grandpa Pete's lap but the play calling last season was horrid.
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Post by Nwadventure » Sun Aug 25, 2024 4:38 pm

Play-calling was actually worse than Horrid-

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Post by Pharmabro » Thu Aug 29, 2024 7:44 am

I really like his style. He had Baltimore playing great D. And this was a Baltimore D that does not have Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, Suggs, Ladarius Webb, and those guys. They had 60 sacks led by DT Madubuicke 13, Clowney 9.5, Van Noy 9. - = 3.5/game

I think we got that beat with:
Byron Murphy 1st D player in the draft
NWosu had 9.5 in 2022
Mafe 9 in 2023
Reed 7
Leonard Williams 5.5
Dremont Jones 4.5

That DL has 4 dudes that can get after the QB at an above average rate of sacks. And this is a 3/4.

Edge is deep Nwosu, and Mafe look like they are capable of getting 10 a piece. As does Gipson.
Even last years 2nd Rd. pick Hall had 2 sacks in the preseason and should give rotational depth. They traded Taylor who was also a #2 Rd who had as many as 9.5 sack in a year a trade they felt so confident in Edge depth.

I think the scheme and the talent will prove effective.

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Re: Ranking the coaching staffs

Post by douche » Sun Sep 01, 2024 7:35 pm

So if Waldron is ranked 6th, then that must prove what we suspected all along... that PC was handcuffing him. Because, as you say, the play-calling was horrid.

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Post by Donn Beach » Mon Sep 02, 2024 1:15 am

The season previous he was ranked 4th
Shane Waldron was initially hired, the focus was on how he was going to help unlock the best play from Russell Wilson. As it turns out, he was to preside over a breakout season from Geno Smith instead. It’s very difficult to parse where the credit for that unexpected season belongs, or even how real it was, but transforming a journeyman quarterback into a top-10 starter is a seriously impressive thing to put on a resume. Waldron’s offense last season ranked 13th in expected points added per play and 12th in successful play percentage.”

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Post by D-train » Mon Sep 02, 2024 10:33 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Sat Aug 24, 2024 10:26 am
The writer begins this piece of clickbait by admitting its a dumb idea. Ranks the seahawks staff 26. I thought his write up was kinda interesting so here it is
26. Seattle Seahawks
Head coach: Mike Macdonald
Offensive coordinator: Ryan Grubb
Defensive coordinator: Aden Durde

Of all the staffs with first-time head coaches, Seattle's is the one I have the most interest in. Macdonald has the goods. He's a renowned communicator and teacher, which is why he can get such a complex, disguise-heavy defense on the field when other NFL coaches struggle to sustain such a system. And that system is perfect for combatting the current meta of league offenses: rushers coming from all angles, but no all-out blitzes for elite quarterbacks to burn. He needs good defensive players to make it all work -- the Seahawks don't have that just yet -- but I believe in his defensive acumen even if this season likely will have some big growing pains.

I really love Macdonald's coordinator decisions. He did not just hire guys he knows, but rather grabbed Aden Durde from Dallas, the schematic polar opposite to Macdonald's defense in Baltimore. What can Durde -- a Middlesex, England, native who was an NFL quality control coach as recently as 2019 -- bring from Dan Quinn's defense and integrate into Macdonald's scheme? I don't know, but the cross-pollination should be interesting.

Similarly, Grubb is a total unknown at the NFL level -- hasn't coached a day in the pros. I tend to be hesitant around career college guys making the NFL leap, but Grubb had a pretty pro-style offense at Washington with a diverse running game, full-field passing concepts and deep drops. Under Grubb, the Huskies hunted easy gains with RPOs and deep downfield when they got clear one-on-ones -- those are two things that are much, much harder to do in the pros than in the college ranks. So, again: I expect growing pains, but don't be surprised if this offense is pretty good at running the football early.
https://www.espn.ph/nfl/insider/story/_ ... s-2024#SEA
This will be looked back on like the F ratings for our 2012 Draft.
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